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stigmata 04-24-2007 06:59 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
Pretty interesting and imaginative line, IMO. I think it is fine, given that:

1) His previous raises versus donk-bets appeared to be of the type that are trying to get weak hands to fold.
2) You think he knows nothing about you, and you could well be a donk.

Given this, which appears to be this case, he is raising your flop donk with a wide range of hands, possibly any 2 cards. I think you have a ton of FE and your 3-bet should be profitable.

RuffRhyder 04-24-2007 07:00 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
It feels like every time I do this, I get shoved on. The weak reraise seems to induce shoves from all kind of hands and therefore works very well with sets. To many players who haven't seen much of your play it will look like a decent hand testing the water, but not willing to put much of your stack on the line.

True 04-24-2007 07:05 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
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what exactly is your definition of a terrible spot?

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a spot where a decision could be very profitable or very bad but lack of information harbous a tough choice.

soah 04-24-2007 07:07 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
and since we have no hand at all, how do we have a tough choice?

True 04-24-2007 07:08 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
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It feels like every time I do this, I get shoved on. The weak reraise seems to induce shoves from all kind of hands and therefore works very well with sets. To many players who haven't seen much of your play it will look like a decent hand testing the water, but not willing to put much of your stack on the line.

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yeh, unless I have seen villain take this line with a set before I often wouldn't give them very much credit here and come over the top as a bluff or call with a wide range as I stated earlier.

Big_Jim 04-24-2007 07:08 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
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what exactly is your definition of a terrible spot?

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a spot where a decision could be very profitable or very bad but lack of information harbous a tough choice.

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When we have a decision like this, what do you think of using game theory to randomize?

True 04-24-2007 07:09 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
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and since we have no hand at all, how do we have a tough choice?

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bluffing in poker, is where you make a bet with what you perceive to be the worst hand in order to induce a fold from your opponent who you suspect is holding a better hand.

soah 04-24-2007 07:10 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
pushing when you pick up more outs seems like the perfect way to randomize if you feel it's a close decision

soah 04-24-2007 07:10 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
good god, I'm just gonna put you on ignore

True 04-24-2007 07:12 AM

Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6
 
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what exactly is your definition of a terrible spot?

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a spot where a decision could be very profitable or very bad but lack of information harbous a tough choice.

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When we have a decision like this, what do you think of using game theory to randomize?

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well, I guess you can do this, but I am not sure what his range is, he may be the type to raise/call with JQ, but may also be the type to only raise and call with a set.

I guess we can start to put a range together. JT+. QQ+. 33 77 JJ. Maybe some more hands like TT etc.

Then we have to give probabilities to raise/calling each and folding on the turn or calling on the turn. If you think he is a person who has a huge raising range on this flop then in my opinion he probably calls them all which gives you a tough decision on the turn.

Lets say he folds all of them but sets and AA/KK then betting is profitable by a large margin I believe.


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