Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

btw,

fpsing is like winning a medal in the military. if you try to win a medal all the time, you're gonna get yourself and your buddies killed. however, when the opportunity is actually correct for you to be a hero, then you can accomplish great things.

all things (especially fps) in moderation

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

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"If I die tonight, let it be known that I thought that X, Y, and Z were villagers." X is the number of seer peeks that should have happened by then.

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Depends on the number of peeks you have to give to be believable.

In 9 player turbos, the correctness of this play is obvious. The more peeks on must give to be believable, the less one should be blatant (either in terms of seering or fake-seering).

For example, boiler's play in CYOA was "confusing." It caused Zurvan to not know who the Bard was.

This is obviously +EV and perfectly fine.

Replace bard with seer and it's fine.

If wolves are confused as to who the power roles are, villagers are confused as to who the power roles are.

You should NEVER make it clearer as to who the seer actually is. Make it murkier, confuse villagers if it helps you confuse wolves and doesn't screw with lynches too bad.

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

OKAY GUYS
I WILL FPS FROM NOW ON
HOWEVER
FPS SHOULD NOW BE:


"FANCILY PLAY, SUBTLELY"

I AM NOW A GREAT WEREWOLF PLAYER

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

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OKAY GUYS
I WILL FPS FROM NOW ON
HOWEVER
FPS SHOULD NOW BE:


"FANCILY PLAY, SUBTLELY"

I AM NOW A GREAT WEREWOLF PLAYER

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btw I'm serious
I'll start doing this from now on

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

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For example, boiler's play in CYOA was "confusing." It caused Zurvan to not know who the Bard was.

This is obviously +EV and perfectly fine.


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Yeah, and I was the villager. So, he confused the village, and not the wolves, since the wolf killed the real Bard that night.

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

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For example, boiler's play in CYOA was "confusing." It caused Zurvan to not know who the Bard was.

This is obviously +EV and perfectly fine.


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Yeah, and I was the villager. So, he confused the village, and not the wolves, since the wolf killed the real Bard that night.

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The wolf did kill the real Bard. However, the wolf is likely to be confused there as to who the real Bard is. He killed KM because she was "clear." That's why the play works (objectively speaking).

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

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If villagers were more concerned with finding the wolves than outsmarting them, villages would win more than they do.

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Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

Says the seer who claimed bard. :P

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

And yes, I know that wolf-finding is way, way more important than this (in games where village isn't an overwhelming favorite due to brokenness), and dmk's insanely effective fake-seering is nowhere near as valuable as traz/gt1t/shortline's ability to read souls.

However, I do think dmk's fake-seering is more valuable than Zurvan's obvious villagering.

Re: Why one should FPS as a villager
 

FPS as a power villager =/= FPS as a villager

VILLAGER DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO FPS EFFECTIVELY

Power villagers occasionally do. Such as peeking a power role that you can claim, while letting that person know that you've peeked them. It's rare, but could never work as a villager.

If bram isn't able to effectively convey to KM that he's the seer & peeked her, she counterclaims, and he gets lynched the next day.