Re: KJs turn play
 

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c/c. You won't fold better hands here.

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I actually like a turn check raise. I think you get AJ, AQ, KQ, KK, AA to fold here and those hands make up a lot of his turn betting range.

Re: KJs turn play
 

I would probably c/r turn, lead river.

Cut self if raised.

Re: KJs turn play
 

Lead because he's going to slow-down and you'll miss value from his 2pair and he's not calling a c/r with worse or folding better.

Re: KJs turn play
 

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I would probably c/r turn, lead river.

Cut self if raised.

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c/r is okay, but leading missed rivers is spewin.'

Re: KJs turn play
 

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I would probably c/r turn, lead river.

Cut self if raised.

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c/r is okay, but leading missed rivers is spewin.'

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Right, should have clarified that when the J hits I think a river lead is in order.

Re: KJs turn play
 

I probably check/call river. If we push river I don't think he's calling with a lot that we beat unless he is a poor player. I like giving villian a chance to bluff or think he is value betting when he is behind. That being said betting the river is fine too.

Re: KJs turn play
 

to those who say c/r turn/lead river...

what would you c/r turn to, given stack sizes? looks like a c/shove to me, no?

Re: KJs turn play
 

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to those who say c/r turn/lead river...

what would you c/r turn to, given stack sizes? looks like a c/shove to me, no?

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indeed it is a check/shove for those taking that line.

Re: KJs turn play
 

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to those who say c/r turn/lead river...

what would you c/r turn to, given stack sizes? looks like a c/shove to me, no?

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I've never been a big fan of CRAI on this type of board on the turn. This board has hit a lot of hands. We have to put villian on a bluff a relatively high portion of the time for us to be good. I think all two pairs are calling us.