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Someone answer this....

If the sites take out the SAME amount of rake for each hand, why do they switch from Dealt to Contributed? Is it because the affiliates get less? Is that the only reason?

All things being equal, usually max $3.00 is taken out of the pot..

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Yes, without a doubt the sites do this because they know it will reduce the MGR that their affiliates get credit for, reducing the commission that they pay the affiliates, which of course reduces the amount of rakeback we all get.

I'm not surpirsed at all by this annoucenment given the fact that AP now owns UB. So now for us US players, we're pretty much down to Full Tilt for sites that allow us to play and give us dealt method for rakeback. The only problem with FT is that they deduct anything and everything from your MGR.

I guess that leaves us screwed...or playing with the other rocks at WSEX.

Re: Ultimate Bet rake calculation update
 

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wouldn't the rake be very close to how it was before because for each pot you play you'd get a bigger share?

ie. before everyone got .20c per hand dealt, but if you play a pot your % of the rake will be usually much bigger (up to 60-80% bigger?)

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That makes sense, but when AP went to contributed we all took about a 40% hit. Of course, AP is weighted contributed, so maybe that is where the difference is. Hopefully this won't be so bad.

Also, if you fold your BB, do you still get MGR for the hand? I hope so...

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I guess we'll see. I moved to UB because of their rakeback (now reduced)and bonuses (now reduced as well). I would be really pissed if i was a US player because they are taking an even bigger hit than others.

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i didn't see this coming....

Re: Ultimate Bet rake calculation update
 

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i didn't see this coming....

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QFT

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I guess we'll see. I moved to UB because of their rakeback (now reduced)and bonuses (now reduced as well). I would be really pissed if i was a US player because they are taking an even bigger hit than others.

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Bonuses reduced? Do you just mean size and/or frequency, or have they changed the clearing terms?

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Poker is getting worse by the minute.

Re: Ultimate Bet rake calculation update
 

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Poker is getting worse by the minute.

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Always a ray of sunsine on a cloudy day in the world of online poker, aren't you? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BTW, when are you changing your name?

Re: Ultimate Bet rake calculation update
 

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I guess we'll see. I moved to UB because of their rakeback (now reduced)and bonuses (now reduced as well). I would be really pissed if i was a US player because they are taking an even bigger hit than others.

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Bonuses reduced? Do you just mean size and/or frequency, or have they changed the clearing terms?

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the deposit bonus went from 650 max to 350 a few weeks ago.

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I guess we'll see. I moved to UB because of their rakeback (now reduced)and bonuses (now reduced as well). I would be really pissed if i was a US player because they are taking an even bigger hit than others.

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Bonuses reduced? Do you just mean size and/or frequency, or have they changed the clearing terms?

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the deposit bonus went from 650 max to 350 a few weeks ago.

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Ah, yes...I was hoping that's what you were alluding too, and not some other changes. Since AP changed their clearance terms a couple of months back, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop over at UB. Glad to hear it hasn't yet.