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ThaSaltCracka 03-23-2007 03:44 PM

Re: A question about the US attorneys firing...
 
There are plenty of hypotheticals here as to why they were fired, however one would assume that if they were appointed by Bush, they must have many of the same ideological beliefs. Also, in order for them to even be appointed to a position of this level, they would have to be incredibly competent and intelligent attorneys. So tell me how, after 6 years, they suddenly became incompetent? Defenitely a red flag in my book. I wouldn't put anything past Rove. That man is singlehandidly ruining our country.

AlexM 03-23-2007 04:26 PM

Re: A question about the US attorneys firing...
 
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Instead, criticism of the Bush Administration has centered around the notion that they have excessively politicized the hiring and firing of federal attorneys.

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Those that complain about this must really hate FDR then.

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Yes, they all swore they would never vote for him again.

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Nobody's voting for Bush again either, so I don't see the relevance. This statement might make some sense if Bush were running in 2008.

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Well, let's talk relevance then. FDR??? Can we go back to James Buchanan or Millard Fillmore for justification too? Maybe you should just stick to the standard "Clinton did it too, it is all his fault".


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What are you talking about? I'm NOT justifying or protecting Bush in anyway. I don't like him at all. I'm pointing out hypocrisy. There are quite a lot of people who villify Bush who don't give a damn when Democrats do the exact same thing and it disgusts me.

PokrLikeItsProse 03-23-2007 05:20 PM

Re: A question about the US attorneys firing...
 
Josh Marshall states it relatively simply:

The firing of a bunch of U.S. Attorneys all at once seemed strange because in the past 25 years only ten have been dismissed at a time other than a new president coming into office, and eight of those ten had a clear, publicized verifiable cause.

People who noticed this highly irregular behavior did some digging and found that a lot of them shared the trait of having pursued corruption cases against Republican politicians.

And after it was pointed out, the Republicans have done a very bad job of lying about it.

The narrative that some people wish to pursue is that the Bush administration has been nakedly partisan in its dealings with a job that is supposed to be non-partisan in nature. Yes, you generally put in U.S. Attorneys of your own party, but you also put in people who have a solid track record in the legal profession and not partisan hacks. Some people see this as consistent with Bush's history, believing that the administration has tried to pressure political-motivated outcomes in areas such as science, national intelligence, and the judiciary.

Felix_Nietzsche 03-23-2007 06:57 PM

Attorneys Carol Lam and Paul Charlton
 
Senator Diane Feinstein wrote a letter complainingd about attorney Carol Lam for NOT prosecuting illegal aliens that committed felonies in the state of California.

Gov attorney Paul Charlton was criticize for refusing to prosecute marijuana felonies unless they were over 500 lbs.

So this explains 2 of the 8.

cardcounter0 03-23-2007 07:12 PM

Re: Attorney Carol Lam
 
Lam "sent a notice to the Justice Department saying that there would be two search warrants" in a criminal investigation of defense contractor Brent R. Wilkes and Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, who had just quit as the CIA's top administrator amid questions about his ties to disgraced former GOP congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham.

The next day, May 11, D. Kyle Sampson, then chief of staff to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, sent an e-mail message to William Kelley in the White House counsel's office saying that Lam should be removed as quickly as possible, according to documents turned over to Congress last week.

"Please call me at your convenience to discuss the following," Sampson

cardcounter0 03-23-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Attorney Paul Charlton
 
Charlton's office was looking into activities of former Tucson Congressman Jim Kolbe related to male congressional pages and current Flagstaff Congressman Rick Renzi's involvement with a land-swap deal. No charges have been brought in either the Renzi or Kolbe cases.

Charlton, now in private practice with Phoenix law firm Gallagher & Kennedy, clashed with administration and Department of Justice officials over some cases and his desire to have more federal interrogations and confessions videotaped.

Mickey Brausch 03-23-2007 08:56 PM

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Felix_Nietzsche 03-24-2007 12:43 AM

Kevin Ryan
 
The LA Times reported on Mar 22, 2007 that a judge voiced several complaints about proscuter Kevin Ryan.

*Also the Diane Feinstein critcism towards Carol Lam occurred on June 15,2006 in a letter sent to Alberto Gonzales. Now that the attorney that Feinsten complained about has been fired.....now she is acting like it is a bad thing. Total hypocrite....

Felix_Nietzsche 03-24-2007 12:48 AM

Re: Attorney Paul Charlton
 
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Charlton's office was looking into activities of former Tucson Congressman Jim Kolbe related to male congressional pages and current Flagstaff Congressman Rick Renzi's involvement with a land-swap deal. No charges have been brought in either the Renzi or Kolbe cases.

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Sounds like the 911 conspiracies. The money quote is no charges were filed. Game-Set-Match

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clashed with administration and Department of Justice officials over some cases and his desire to have more federal interrogations and confessions videotaped.

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So he doesn't want to follow the polcies of the Al Gonzo Justice Dept. Then he gets fired. Gee Whiz what a surprise.....this would NEVER would happen in the private sector. In the private sector you can ignore comapny policy all day long and they can't touch you.....is that not correct?

Felix_Nietzsche 03-24-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Attorney Carol Lam
 
Yawn....any meat in the hamburger you are trying to serve me?
Evidently Diane Feinstein didn't think too much of Carol Lamb either. And Randy Cunningham is in jail where he belongs.... William Jefferson, Dem LA is still walking the streets despite the $90,000 of marked bills that were found in his freezer...


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