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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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I started a thread about this in the Sporting Events forum.

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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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I think most leprechauns are offended by the stereotype that is reinforced by the ND mascot. It's a shame that current day leprechauns do not speak out against this, but I think the fear of losing the royalties from their endorsement of Lucky Charms keeps them silent on this issue.

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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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The Illinois mascot is a native american. How is that offensive?

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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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The Illinois mascot is a white kid from the suburbs dressed up as a native american. How is that not offensive?

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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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The Illinois mascot is a white kid from the suburbs dressed up as a native american. How is that not offensive?

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Yeah, where the guy lives is relevant. So if the notre dame mascot is an irish guy in the costume, it's ok. If he's mexican, it's offensive.
We're not talking about chief wahoo here.

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The Notre Dame mascot isn't drunk and is a [censored] leprechaun, a mythical creature of Irish folklore. How is that offensive or comparable?

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The Illinois mascot is a white kid from the suburbs dressed up as a native american. How is that not offensive?

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Yeah, where the guy lives is relevant. So if the notre dame mascot is an irish guy in the costume, it's ok. If he's mexican, it's offensive.
We're not talking about chief wahoo here.

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I don't think anyone has ever claimed that the Notre Dame mascot is offensive. There was a black guy who was the leprechaun a few years ago, no one complained.


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Re: Chief Illiniwek\'s Last Dance
 

I'll just repeat what I said in the Sporting Events thread about this.

I'm fine with the name Illini/Fighting Illini.

Whether or not you think it's offensive, I think the idea of a white person dressing up as a native American and performing a dance ritual during a sporting event halftime is highly inappropriate.

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I don't think anyone has ever claimed that the Notre Dame mascot is offensive.

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That's the whole point.

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Whether or not you think it's offensive, I think the idea of a white person dressing up as a native American and performing a dance ritual during a sporting event halftime is highly inappropriate.

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Why? It's not done mockingly.
The act of imitating something else is not by default offensive. Of course, depending on how it's done, it can be offensive. But it's not inherently so.

Why in the hell would it matter what race the person is who's doing it?