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BluffTHIS! 01-31-2007 02:02 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
BPN,

In the other thread regarding a link that a poster provide re a canadian hosting service, Freakin said the following:

" the most popular (and therefore cost-effective) VPS runs SWSoft Virtuozzo. The easiest piece of software to use to get VPNs set up in less than 5-10 minutes is not supported by virtuozzo. So a virtuozzo VPS will not work for easy setup of VPN servers (there are other options in both VPS and VPN service)".


Now in fact I haven't seen one that doesn't use Virtuozzo, although the same company, SWSoft, produces Plesk Reloaded which does distinctly state it has a VPN module to work with VPN software like OpenVPN (though I'm not sure if only the server has to be run on Linux or the client does as well).

Nonetheless, Freakin's response above seems to imply that although some VPN software isn't compatible with Virtuozzo, there is some that is, although I don't know which apps he means.

jaminbird 01-31-2007 02:19 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
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BPN,

In the other thread regarding a link that a poster provide re a canadian hosting service, Freakin said the following:

" the most popular (and therefore cost-effective) VPS runs SWSoft Virtuozzo. The easiest piece of software to use to get VPNs set up in less than 5-10 minutes is not supported by virtuozzo. So a virtuozzo VPS will not work for easy setup of VPN servers (there are other options in both VPS and VPN service)".


Now in fact I haven't seen one that doesn't use Virtuozzo, although the same company, SWSoft, produces Plesk Reloaded which does distinctly state it has a VPN module to work with VPN software like OpenVPN (though I'm not sure if only the server has to be run on Linux or the client does as well).

Nonetheless, Freakin's response above seems to imply that although some VPN software isn't compatible with Virtuozzo, there is some that is, although I don't know which apps he means.

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Virtuozzo only works if the os on your server is linux, if you want win2k3 then you need somthing like microsoft virtual server.

BluffTHIS! 01-31-2007 05:28 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
jamin,

My comments are as to what client software you need on the PC. Perhaps someone can comment on whether a Virtuozzo installation on the VPN server means that you have to run a linux client to run the VPN or can run a windows one.

jaminbird 02-01-2007 04:09 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
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jamin,

My comments are as to what client software you need on the PC. Perhaps someone can comment on whether a Virtuozzo installation on the VPN server means that you have to run a linux client to run the VPN or can run a windows one.

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Yes, this what i was trying to say above

Freakin 02-01-2007 04:21 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
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BPN,

In the other thread regarding a link that a poster provide re a canadian hosting service, Freakin said the following:

" the most popular (and therefore cost-effective) VPS runs SWSoft Virtuozzo. The easiest piece of software to use to get VPNs set up in less than 5-10 minutes is not supported by virtuozzo. So a virtuozzo VPS will not work for easy setup of VPN servers (there are other options in both VPS and VPN service)".


Now in fact I haven't seen one that doesn't use Virtuozzo, although the same company, SWSoft, produces Plesk Reloaded which does distinctly state it has a VPN module to work with VPN software like OpenVPN (though I'm not sure if only the server has to be run on Linux or the client does as well).

Nonetheless, Freakin's response above seems to imply that although some VPN software isn't compatible with Virtuozzo, there is some that is, although I don't know which apps he means.

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there are several major pieces of software that work on any linux box with an available IP.

The solution I refer to that will not work on Virtuozzo (last I checked) is trivial to set up, which is why I stick with it.

Yakuman 02-02-2007 02:37 AM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
Do you have to be a Microsoft-certified engineer to make this project happen?

Freakin 02-02-2007 04:26 PM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
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Do you have to be a Microsoft-certified engineer to make this project happen?

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definitely not... im far from a MC anything and I've got it working...

My only problem is that i don't have any interest in running a business that involves recurring payments or customer support.

RakeCommunity 02-03-2007 02:01 PM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
The best way (in my opinion)to accomplish the network traffic redirect (without VPN/RDP)is through a socks proxy. I have done this before with CCProxy (Server) and SocksCap (Client). All you would need to do is configure the Proxy Server on a machine outside the US, and then run the Poker Site shortcut in Sockscap. Configuring the proxy is fairly simple and would require a port open on the firewall of the machine you are on. You could easily rent a cheap offshore dedicated server for 50-100$ a month and accomplish this.

BiPolar_Nut 02-03-2007 03:18 PM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
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The best way (in my opinion)to accomplish the network traffic redirect (without VPN/RDP)is through a socks proxy. I have done this before with CCProxy (Server) and SocksCap (Client). All you would need to do is configure the Proxy Server on a machine outside the US, and then run the Poker Site shortcut in Sockscap. Configuring the proxy is fairly simple and would require a port open on the firewall of the machine you are on. You could easily rent a cheap offshore dedicated server for 50-100$ a month and accomplish this.

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Proxies only forward TCP traffic, typically only on http ports (80 & 443). Party phones home on another UDP port. Any gaming site could add this capability (or change the port) at will via a poker client update. While it is true that you can connect to Party and play through a foreign proxy, be aware they know full well your connection is coming from a computer in the US and is running through a proxy.

I don't know their motives in allowing proxy play currently, but I wouldn't be surprised if funds were seized at some point. Proxies work, but at higher risk IMO. Personally, I'd opt to not play if a proxy was my only option.

Proxies would be fine for web interfaces to sportsbooks tho, since there is no client software being used.

RakeCommunity 02-03-2007 05:11 PM

Re: KISS principal: Virtual Canadian via Remote Desktop?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS

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The best way (in my opinion)to accomplish the network traffic redirect (without VPN/RDP)is through a socks proxy. I have done this before with CCProxy (Server) and SocksCap (Client). All you would need to do is configure the Proxy Server on a machine outside the US, and then run the Poker Site shortcut in Sockscap. Configuring the proxy is fairly simple and would require a port open on the firewall of the machine you are on. You could easily rent a cheap offshore dedicated server for 50-100$ a month and accomplish this.

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Proxies only forward TCP traffic, typically only on http ports (80 & 443). Party phones home on another UDP port. Any gaming site could add this capability (or change the port) at will via a poker client update. While it is true that you can connect to Party and play through a foreign proxy, be aware they know full well your connection is coming from a computer in the US and is running through a proxy.

I don't know their motives in allowing proxy play currently, but I wouldn't be surprised if funds were seized at some point. Proxies work, but at higher risk IMO. Personally, I'd opt to not play if a proxy was my only option.

Proxies would be fine for web interfaces to sportsbooks tho, since there is no client software being used.

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