Re: JJ facing turn ck-raise
 

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i could have gone either way vs an unknown on the turn but i think my default is call down; Although as i bet the turn i said i was folding to a check-raise then called down
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I dont go either way on this one. I call down every time against a no read on wpex. I think you played this hand well.

Re: JJ facing turn ck-raise
 

How are we not having a draw a against a 2 pair hand? Raising for a free showdown is not a good play here IMO. Putting in multiple bets on the expensive streets just to fold a 9-outer sucks a lot, no?

EDIT: 10 -> 9

Re: JJ facing turn ck-raise
 

@Oink

If he caps we don't have 9 outs! Hell, we rarely have 1. And beside we are not putting anymore bets in than calling. The turn reraise is putting villain in the position of making maximum mistakes: he could be the one folding a 9 outer and if not, he is charged max when he is the one drawing.

By the way: if he calls our raise, I raise if he bets out on a diamond river.