Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

LOL, MDMA. Waiting for a hand posted by you to see the master in action.

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

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raptor's advice is good. Anyone saying to fold preflop for $400 more $17k deep with a suited ace... lol. I'd probably fold the river though.

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WTF, who cares if you've got 17k back. It's not like he's going to stack off with one pair, and he's going to use position to make the pot his bitch. Look at the way the hand played out.

You're always taking a -EV hit by calling a good opponent's reraise with a poor hand OOP. vs. an opponent of comparable skill there's no way this is profitable.

Now, make the reraiser a fish instead of the wily mr. Moussa and I've got no problem with the call.

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

i didnt mean to type "of", i meant to type "or". btw bobbo, wtf? usually i think your posts are very rational but here i disagree with you entirely. if i call this river 0% of the time he can bluff me with impunity. if i call this river 100% of the time he never has to bluff me. clearly i have to call a certain % of the time to be playing optimally.

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i didnt mean to type "of", i meant to type "or". btw bobbo, wtf? usually i think your posts are very rational but here i disagree with you entirely. if i call this river 0% of the time he can bluff me with impunity. if i call this river 100% of the time he never has to bluff me. clearly i have to call a certain % of the time to be playing optimally.

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no, i cant go into this further then just:

how the hell can you expect him to know what you do anywhere from 0% to 100%? unless he can read your mind, he cant. thus, the decision is clear. (always do one or the other) there is no metagame here.

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M,

"Gawd, it's so basic and self-explanatory that nobody cares explaining it Sa125."

Man, you are turning into a dick! Maybe you need to spend some time in a nicer forum?

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

Haha, you and FV has turned me into a MONSTARR [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

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raptor's advice is good. Anyone saying to fold preflop for $400 more $17k deep with a suited ace... lol.

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Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

Hi T,

i think u played it ok so far. As for river u actually have three options. In short handed games i sometimes go for a slight overbet on river but i dont think that would work well here... I dont think check-call is that bad, but consider what a check-raise would accomplish...

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

fold before the flop, fold on the river barring any read

Re: deepstack 25-50 hand vs jcmoussa
 

IMO, one of the best ways to get yourself into bad spots where you can spew chips psotflop is to get it in your head that someone is going to start playing back at you lightley and open up your range of calling re-raises. With your type of hand, it will be difficult to make a disguised hand and win a big pot. As played, i fold the river, AQ and AJ are very likely for him IMO.