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StellarWind 10-14-2006 09:25 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
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There is no real information concerning AP in this link. Excapsa was purchased by the parent of bet21.com, one of its own skins.

I call BS on the UB-AP merger until someone produces an actual source.

StellarWind 10-14-2006 09:28 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
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What happened to the reports that Party would lose roughly 80% of their player base when the U.S. got blocked?

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80% was revenue, not poker players. Perhaps the biggest hit will be in other games.

BluffTHIS! 10-14-2006 09:33 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
They may not have been able to promote their casino and other games businesses to europe like they did with poker, so they might indeed have been even more top-heavy with US customers there.

Sniper 10-14-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
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What happened to the reports that Party would lose roughly 80% of their player base when the U.S. got blocked?

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80% was revenue, not poker players. Perhaps the biggest hit will be in other games.

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Stellar... the mass of US players were spending less than $20/night on MTT donkfests [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Sniper 10-14-2006 09:54 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post7653363

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There is no real information concerning AP in this link. Excapsa was purchased by the parent of bet21.com, one of its own skins.

I call BS on the UB-AP merger until someone produces an actual source.

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Correct, a possible UB-AP merger is a seperate issue from that announcement.

Self Made 10-14-2006 10:10 PM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
AP/UB talk was just an error, not even a rumor, as far as I can tell. No one's cited a source yet. BlastOff/Bet21 bought Exapsa's assets.

Re the small rooms, I believe Poker.com is the largest not covered by PokerSiteScout. It's just smaller than WPEX. Mansion is close too.

kslghost 10-15-2006 12:02 AM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
Party's got a good European base that will keep that number around 5-6 thousand every day during European hours. During American hours, it hit up to 13k, so if you imagine that there are about 20k people cycling around max times, about 1/3 of their base is European (and Canadaian of course).

So yea, they immediately lost 66% of their base, even though the numbers dropped only by about 40%.

StellarWind 10-15-2006 12:56 AM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
These number show the peak and not the average.

Suppose Jimmy's Poker Shack has 10 players during U.S. prime time and 5 players during European prime time. After Jimmy pulls out he still has 5 players during Euro prime but 0 players during U.S. prime time.

PokerSiteScout would tell you that Jimmy's peak has dropped by 50%. That's true, but it is equally true that Jimmy has actually lost 2/3 of his business.

PokerSiteScout 24-hour maximums are always going to overrate the size of Euro-centric sites compared to sites with successful worldwide diversification. It's the nature of the method. It's why networks like Tain that have no actual players rank so highly [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

PokerSiteScout would be much more useful if it published average traffic statistics and ranked accordingly. For example add up 24 hourly measurements taken during a day and divide by 24.

Self Made 10-15-2006 01:46 AM

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PokerSiteScout would be much more useful if it published average traffic statistics and ranked accordingly. For example add up 24 hourly measurements taken during a day and divide by 24.

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It might be even more useful if you could see both peak US-time and peak Euro-time traffic.

Botchman 10-15-2006 02:31 AM

Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
 
Judging by the number of posts I've seen the last couple of days saying "I can't play more", "Ohhh Nooo", "We are Done","Where do we go",it looks like the overall volume of traffic will be down quite a bit, Some people think to come to forums like this and ask what the deal is but I'd say for every one that does theres at least 10 that won't be playing any more because either they are scared and or think it is no longer possible for them to play.


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