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*TT* 08-13-2006 12:34 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
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I think the number one error a TAG makes is breaking when he or she shouldn't. This probably is not what you have in mind.

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Ok, I'll accept that... I should have said the #1 error a TAG makes that is not commonly known. I think breaking is the #2 error, most would disagree, its very close regardless.

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2461Badugi 08-13-2006 12:38 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
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I suppose that matters too. You should decide for yourself.

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Yay, I'm not a fish!

Well, maybe I am....

This thread has generated an unfortunate contradiction within my psyche.

Xellos 08-13-2006 12:46 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
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I think the number one error a TAG makes is breaking when he or she shouldn't. This probably is not what you have in mind.

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Ok, I'll accept that... I should have said the #1 error a TAG makes that is not commonly known. I think breaking is the #2 error, most would disagree, its very close regardless.

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I don't think it's a huge error, but at the end of hands I would often feel like a lot of the time I could have just called an opponent's bet before the last draw with a fairly solid pat hand in position and let them pat and draw dead. Then you either win 1 less bet or the same amount of bets, without the horrible possibility of losing the whole pot if you make your opponent break and they get there.

I wouldn't think that this is what you had in mind, but you said it wasn't common, and I don't see anyone ever do this, and it does occur to me occassionally that this might be a good play, but then I don't do it anyway.

Soviet Exile 08-13-2006 02:30 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
I find your posts ambiguous. But thanks for posting.

Xellos 08-13-2006 02:39 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
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I find your posts ambiguous. But thanks for posting.

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If you're replying to my post then my excuse is that I haven't slept in a couple days. Normally my posts make sense and are readable.

*TT* 08-13-2006 08:58 AM

Re: TD and relative position
 
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I think the number one error a TAG makes is breaking when he or she shouldn't. This probably is not what you have in mind.

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Ok, I'll accept that... I should have said the #1 error a TAG makes that is not commonly known. I think breaking is the #2 error, most would disagree, its very close regardless.

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I don't think it's a huge error, but at the end of hands I would often feel like a lot of the time I could have just called an opponent's bet before the last draw with a fairly solid pat hand in position and let them pat and draw dead. Then you either win 1 less bet or the same amount of bets, without the horrible possibility of losing the whole pot if you make your opponent break and they get there.

I wouldn't think that this is what you had in mind, but you said it wasn't common, and I don't see anyone ever do this, and it does occur to me occassionally that this might be a good play, but then I don't do it anyway.

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Thats a 1 bet error. Think of errors that cost the hero significantly more money. Think of the fundamental theorem of poker, it applies to TD yet few TAG consider it. Another hint - see my post about 3-betting from the SB against a possible button steal.

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AlanBostick 08-13-2006 02:12 PM

Re: TD and relative position
 
Raising when they should call. D'oh!


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