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Hattifnatt 08-17-2007 07:59 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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What if we have the Q high or the J high flush?

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Probably a call, def no reraise.

Jamougha 08-17-2007 09:09 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I like calling, shoving and minraising much better than making it a medium amount. Actually not sure what I'd do.

tcorbin16 08-17-2007 01:44 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
hmmmm interesting posts. i agree with flat claling like J and Q high flushes.

catcher- i think thats a [censored] dick thing to do if u would ever do that and im not a big fan of doing it... unless of course its vs u.

again if i made it like 2.5 or w/e and he shoved im not gonna fold for 1.2k more or w/e it was vs this guy id rather him shove that [censored] in my face tahn have him shove a 7 or lower flush (for value.... lol)

Hattifnatt 08-17-2007 01:47 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
Why do you think Catcher's thing a dick thing to do?

TheWorstPlayer 08-17-2007 01:49 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
it's not dick, it's just stupid

tcorbin16 08-17-2007 01:52 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
because you are making a [censored] statement to the fish who has done nothing wrong in order to sway his decision into calling/folding/raising... i mean come on i think that is a pretty lame thing to do but maybe i am just diff from you guys.

aislephive 08-17-2007 01:53 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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Villian is not ever ever ever ever pushing a flush that we beat, unless he is completely batshit insane or completely retarded. I still like making it 2kish, and yes I'm folding to a shove.

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Villain has "fishy" stats which leads me to believe he doesn't really think logically, and could really shove any flush for value or perhaps a straight. I think raising/folding a K high flush to this guy is pretty bad personally. I'd raise/call or shove or just call, leaning towards the first two for sure.

TheWorstPlayer 08-17-2007 01:54 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
but stupid chat like that is part of the game HU. but it is still stupid.

Hattifnatt 08-17-2007 01:55 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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because you are making a [censored] statement to the fish who has done nothing wrong in order to sway his decision into calling/folding/raising... i mean come on i think that is a pretty lame thing to do but maybe i am just diff from you guys.

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I am very much for beeing ethical at the poker table and hate all sorts of slowrolling and such but this is def not an unetichal move at all imo, agree that its stupid though and probably -EV.

FireStorm 08-17-2007 01:56 PM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
Why is it a lame thing to do? the man sat at the table, ran his stack up, and has the right to make a decision as to what OP's statement means. He can ignore it, read it and attach no significance, or interpret it somehow and then act accordingly. Please note that I'm not advocating typing in something stupid about a one card straight, but if you want to do this to a fish, go right ahead. It's poker, not the opera.

As far as the actual hand, raise to 2.2k. Q hi flush would be close, I might raise but would likely just call. J hi flush is just a call, always. against the player you describe, your K high flush is almost always good here.


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