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ilya 08-12-2007 10:48 PM

Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
 
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Is it contradictory to have value shoving KJ and bluff shoving QJ be part of the same game plan?

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Not necessarily; to see why, imagine that your opponent has TT 100% of the time and folds 60% of the time when you make a pot shove on the river. Both bluff shoving QJ and value shoving KJ will now be profitable.

piriformis 08-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
 
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i have QJ and he winz.

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Jfish, would you value shove here with KQ/KJ? I assume you would amirite?

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urrite.

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i doubt this very much. seems pretty bad imo

jfish 08-13-2007 06:32 AM

Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
 
well i think his hand is pretty obvious as a pair under Kx given his flop call and turn check. i might not shove river with KJ/KQ but id certainly bet it.

ddubois 08-13-2007 02:24 PM

Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
 
If OP didn't bet QQ on the turn, why do you think he'd bet KTs-KQs? And AcXc takes the free card some % of the time surely. Even A7s/A6s are possible.


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