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Conan776 09-20-2007 05:37 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
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I think this is a fold (not that I do, but i think you should). Villain almost always has AsXs or 78ss here. If he's good, ballsy, reads that you can lay down big hands, and has the As for the blocker on the nut flush, he might be bluffing here. But I don't think you see that very often at all.

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I've never seen that play at small stakes NLHE.

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That's cause no one at SSNL folds a non-nut flush in this spot.

Etats360 09-20-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
I always tell myself to fold but end up making an excuse to call here.

Jay Riall 09-20-2007 05:55 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

Shizzle12345 09-20-2007 05:55 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
How the hell can you even consider folding here. If you have a wild image and if you can 3barrel this with a wide range and he knows that then i call here always. He could easily do this with lower flushes maybe even 'trapping' with striaght or set..

Unknown Soldier 09-20-2007 05:57 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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Etats360 09-20-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

Noam Chomsky 09-20-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

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I think he's saying if the guy had the naked As he'd be more inclined to just call the river rather than turning it into a bluff, hence reducing his bluff frequency.

wdead 09-20-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
Pretty easy fold vs. villain described. He has Kxss+ always.

Etats360 09-20-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

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I think he's saying if the guy had the naked As he'd be more inclined to just call the river rather than turning it into a bluff, hence reducing his bluff frequency.

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Q high flush>naked As

wdead 09-20-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?
 
Also I am mega pissed this is now a standard fold because 2 years ago this was a standard call/shove. Games are so nitty now its sad.


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