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Split Suit 10-24-2007 06:54 PM

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Attainable winrates from $25-$200nl 12 tabling, and what how would your vpip/prf change as you move up?

Thx

[/ QUOTE ]My wr after 70k hands at the $50 is just over 6 and I think that it could easily be around 9 if not for playing my c or d game sometimes. So I'd say 10 is attainable, maybe even up to 12 but obv you'd have to play very good and never tilt or have an off day.

At the $25 I think 10 is very doable, >12 is def. achievable.

I'm not sure about the vpip/pfr question. It's nearly identical for the 25 and 50.

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ptbb/100 or bb/100?

Chargers In 07 10-24-2007 06:55 PM

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ptbb ldo.

Split Suit 10-24-2007 07:05 PM

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u really think 10-12 is gonna b long run attainable? im thinkin that is wayy high. 7-8 are probably the ceiling for 12tablers.

Johnes Benjamin 10-24-2007 07:05 PM

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so you are saying you run at 12bb/100 playing like 13/9???
I don't know if that will be sustained, but good job. I kind of suck I guess.

Chargers In 07 10-24-2007 07:08 PM

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Maybe 12 is high but i dont think 10 is. I didnt think making 9 would mean 1700 more than i've made and I don't think I've spewed that much.

MAxx 10-24-2007 07:20 PM

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One thing I am having a little trouble getting used to in NL is adjusting to calculating implied odds, whereas it seemed to be very easy in limit.

It's probably a multi-pronged issue:

1) Doing the caculation quickly

2) Estimating how much I will likely get paid off if I hit. I realize this is still player and stacksize dependant, but perhaps it just comes with experience.

3) Maybe it would help to have a few basic scenarios for preflop situtions, but it is more of an issue with the postflop on draws

General guidance or any specific suggestions would be greatly appreciated

ElectricWaffles 10-24-2007 07:34 PM

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I've seen a few posts where people are using Aggression Factor when assesing what a 'donkbet' means (She has a high aggression factor so a donkbet doesn't mean much, for example)

That's the incorrect stat to be looking at right? Isn't BetFlop% a better stat to be looking at when assesing donkbets?

It seems obvious to me, but i've seen lots of people drawing inferences from Agg. Factor. Am I missing something there by taking the aggression factor stat too literally (ie. How often somebody raises&bets versus how often they just call)?

I think thats n00bish enough to go in this thread.

ledders07 10-24-2007 07:35 PM

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why is the chat thread called "purple goose"?

Split Suit 10-24-2007 07:40 PM

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I've seen a few posts where people are using Aggression Factor when assesing what a 'donkbet' means (She has a high aggression factor so a donkbet doesn't mean much, for example)

That's the incorrect stat to be looking at right? Isn't BetFlop% a better stat to be looking at when assesing donkbets?

It seems obvious to me, but i've seen lots of people drawing inferences from Agg. Factor. Am I missing something there by taking the aggression factor stat too literally (ie. How often somebody raises&bets versus how often they just call)?

I think thats n00bish enough to go in this thread.

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i dont use this stat to infer much about thier donk bets. generally donk bets from TAGs mean they hit a set and are tryying to pressure u into raising (very +EV play in multiway pots when u have ppl to act after u). and LAGs just do it

most ppl over-use the AF #. that number doesnt have much meaning because it doesnt mean anything until u get to a big sample size (400+hands)

m bozeman 10-24-2007 07:56 PM

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I tried the legopoker converter. After I pasted the hand there, and hit "convert hand", it disappeared and it said "no hand histories detected". What did I do wrong?


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