Re: STOP INITIATING CHAT WITH DEALERS
 

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For you information, the dealer is not supposed to talking-period.

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Show me in any casino rule book in any state where it says that, and I'll give you a gold star. Until then you will just have to live with the fact that your out of touch with society, dealers, and card room management policies.

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No. It is you, who is out of touch, because you know nothing of poker tradition. Give me a "gold star" for the origin of the oft mentioned phrase, "SHUT UP AND DEAL", if you believe I created poker game etiquette. I realize poker is changing. Problem is, it's becoming UNRECOGNIZABLE.

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Okay, so, it's changing. Roll with it or be left behind. Bend or break, basically.

Do you understand the idea put forward that when dealers are treated as robots, the bad ones are the only ones who will stay? By wanting dealers to shut up completely, you are working against yourself, encouraging the good ones to find happier employment elsewhere. I understand that excessive chattiness leads to mistakes, and there are a fair number of dealers I wish would shut up and deal, but the chattiness is a symptom of their crappiness, not the other way around. Your ire is misdirected.

But don't worry, they'll all be replaced by machines soon enough.

As a dealer, I don't like to get involved in conversations, as it does distract me, but I do like friendliness between hands. It can be a little awkward to have to smile at someone making horrible jokes that I've heard dozens of times over, but I prefer that to the angry, grumpy customers.

Re: STOP INITIATING CHAT WITH DEALERS
 

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For you information, the dealer is not supposed to talking-period.

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Show me in any casino rule book in any state where it says that, and I'll give you a gold star. Until then you will just have to live with the fact that your out of touch with society, dealers, and card room management policies.

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No. It is you, who is out of touch, because you know nothing of poker tradition. Give me a "gold star" for the origin of the oft mentioned phrase, "SHUT UP AND DEAL", if you believe I created poker game etiquette. I realize poker is changing. Problem is, it's becoming UNRECOGNIZABLE.

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hurray, you can quote a saying from a TV show. There is not a floor in America that will side with you on this one because your taking such an extreme stance, and since they control the casinos your statement is ludicrous. Sorry, as a player you cannot fire a dealer for talking - but casino management can, and they don't. Do you see why?

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No. It is you, who is out of touch, because you know nothing of poker tradition. Give me a "gold star" for the origin of the oft mentioned phrase, "SHUT UP AND DEAL", if you believe I created poker game etiquette. I realize poker is changing. Problem is, it's becoming UNRECOGNIZABLE.

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Honestly, do you have autism or something like that? What the hell is wrong with you. If you hate the world, then go inside and play poker on the internet. It's that simple. You never need to go outside, you never need to talk to anyone, and you never need to feel feelings. You can sit in the dark, masturbate, play poker, and never have to make contact with another soul ever again.

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You can sit in the dark, masturbate, play poker, and never have to make contact with another soul ever again.

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God bless America.

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I prefer players to not try to engage me in conversation because I don't like making idle conversation.

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Probably most people here would agree (and it's already been stated) that excessive chattiness could be an issue, but to say the dealers should sit silently and throw cards is extreme.

When I ran an office I had several employees who dealt with customers to varying degrees; I'd never, ever expect them to speak the bare minimum to the customer to get the job done. Simply put, friendly employees bring customers back to your business.

Plus, some of those dealers are too damn cute *not* to flirt with. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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For you information, the dealer is not supposed to talking-period.

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Show me in any casino rule book in any state where it says that, and I'll give you a gold star. Until then you will just have to live with the fact that your out of touch with society, dealers, and card room management policies.

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No. It is you, who is out of touch, because you know nothing of poker tradition. Give me a "gold star" for the origin of the oft mentioned phrase, "SHUT UP AND DEAL", if you believe I created poker game etiquette. I realize poker is changing. Problem is, it's becoming UNRECOGNIZABLE.

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I don't think it's necessary to pile on this guy, but the newbies should understand from the overwhelming sentiment of this thread that he has no clue what "poker game etiquette" is.

There are appropriate times to talk to other players and/or to the dealer and there are inappropriate times. Basically, if you are likely to interrupt the flow of the game or effect the play of an ongoing hand, keep your mouth shut. Otherwise, relax, have fun and be social. It's good for the game and it is good for your own mental health. The grumpy octogenarian across the table may gets pissy about your talking -- listen politely to his complaints and ignore them.

If you disagree, stick to internet poker.

And no gold star -- the line "Shut up and deal" comes from the conclusion of a 1960 romantic comedy staring Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine. It has nothing to do with poker room etiquette and it is not originally a poker-related quoted -- they are playing gin rummy.

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I know dealers can chat and thats cool, when it doesn't interfere with the game. I was at Greektown in Detroit last Friday playing 5-10 & 3-6 limit. Several of the dealers were sloooow, and then right when one was about to start dealing a hand, some douchbag asks her a question and she stops dealing and has distant stare on her face like she's deep in thought, this happened on like all 5 hands she delt in a half hour.

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Let me preface this by saying that I really don't like to chat it up while I am in the box... I am really a "down to business" dealer. This is really changing with casinos and their hiring practices. They want dealers to be more entertaining than ever so their new guests will keep coming back and enjoy their experiences.

It used to be that casinos wanted dealers to be total robots and just grind hand after hand after hand as fast as humanly possible. I think it has changed to where the casino would take a one or two hand an hour loss if it meant that the tables were a little more lively, and the not so everyday player will have fun and keep coming back, tipping the cocktail waitresses, eating at the restraunts, ect...

However, the dealers need to be properly trained and schooled to be able to keep the game pace up and keep the conversation in-between hands only. If the dealer can do both of these things, I see no reason he shouldn't be talking and taking the casual players mind off the poker game.. all it can do is help the thinking player (which is YOU)