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dchz 01-29-2007 02:13 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
Grunch:

you extract the most by 3 betting flop big

4_2_it 01-29-2007 02:14 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
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Seems fine. Anything that calls $60-$80 is going to call your push. You aren't getting anything from a horribly played missed draw or much from an AK-like hand.

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Lol AK/AQ go broke all the time in these spots.

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Unless Absolute has gotten less rockish, I would not expect to see AK call a bet on the river very often; however, my point was if AK (or nay villain holding) will call $75 on the river, then it will call a shove.

Casper05 01-29-2007 02:27 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
raise turn to like 70-80 so a river push is easier.

DaCooler 01-29-2007 02:48 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
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Grunch:

you extract the most by 3 betting flop big

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I really disagree with this, IM folding AK AQ to that raise and most decent players i know will, only hands that are calling this are top two or maybe some idiots with hearts

Freelancer 01-29-2007 03:39 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
If I don't c/r the flop I 3-bet it for sure (I have a tendency to c/r a lot on the flop) probably not huge (like half pot size) but enough to put most of it in on the turn.

Also decent players might find a fold with AQ/AK but how often do you meet good players at these stakes? Very rarely in my opinion.
So unless I have a read I 3-bet this like always, he tells you that he's interested so nail him now...

Lucky 01-29-2007 03:50 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
I dont hate 3 betting flop if villain is donk, as he looks like from gay raise on flop. If villain is good, adn puts in real raise on flop, c/r turn and bet river is fine.

I think you're left with a big-ish bet for him to call on river because of this. If he puts in real raise on flop, and you call, then c/r turn the money goes it. It also goes in if you 3 bet his mini raise on flop.

BarryLyndon 01-29-2007 04:00 PM

Re: how can i extract the most out of this?? turned quads
 
Raise more on the turn.


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