Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

Call! He's only laying this down if he has some major respect for the Villian. This has to be a call against these online donks.

What are thoughts on a mid PP that did'nt hit. This kind of hand could easily make this move. A boat does'nt push AI into the raiser, especailly when he knows hero has an Ace. ?????????

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

I think flop check is fine as long as your turn bet is smaller (~2/3). Many people will call that bet if they catch up on the turn or have a moderate PP. I fold river, looks like a boat.

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

bet flop

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

thanks J

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

I don't hate the flop check as much as everybody else seems to (although my default play is still to bet here to extract from a worse A or flush draw). I'm usually not stacking off on the river here though, unless I've seen this guy bluff big or make some strange river pushes before. Or unless the villian is you, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Against a typical 24/11 with lowish aggression factor, this is nearly always a boat. He probably spiked his PP on turn or river (or flopped it) and is afraid you won't fire again on the river, but thinks you may pay off with a decent A.

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

ya, i folded. i thought he might have overplayed a worse ace, but i think much more often it is a boat. still bothers me a bit, but glad to see a lot of people think the fold is correct.

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

i hate to harp on it, and i might like the flop check if you were first to act, but from the position you were in in a multi way flop, especially since i'm c-betting it so much with a hand that whiffed, i'm DEF betting this flop here

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

a less obvious reason to bet this flop is that later in the hand you may face big heat from somebody who doesnt put you on an ace, and you can end up making mistakes, or at least have tough decisions. not to mention the possibility of one of them getting there on the turn.

Deception is all well and good, but when you've got 3 fish on the line and a whopper of a hand (but not a lock), you may as well start to reel them in early.

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

thank you, DJ, i didn't realise the reasons for betting the flop. would anyone else care to mention that they would bet the flop? what about the [censored] river? DOES he not put me on an ace and therefore he's bluffing, or as I thought, does he want to get it in against an ace because he can beat that...?

Re: trip aces, good kicker... meh
 

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DOES he not put me on an ace and therefore he's bluffing, or as I thought, does he want to get it in against an ace because he can beat that...?

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It's the second one.