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monkeymaps 10-17-2007 11:17 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
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oh it's 25NL... i feel this would work at 50NL though against an opponent w/ those stats.

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man I need to move up to where they respect my bluffs.... lol

Upgrade_U 10-17-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
3barreling air at micro stakes ?

Yeah,that sounds about the easiest way to dump $$ ..

EMc 10-17-2007 11:28 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
methinks you are misinterpreting his advice

Gelford 10-17-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
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methinks you are misinterpreting his advice

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Perhaps he does not formulate his advice well ??? .. I mean 'You are weaktight uNL' has to lead to clueless uNL'ers shoving themselves broke ... maybe he needs to elaborate ??

megatron 10-17-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
When he calls the turn bet what range are you putting him on? The flush draw is a small part of the range that gets here I think. Calling your Button raise from the BB there are various aces that won't be laying down, there's KJ that might not lay down, a QT gutshot made it on the turn. Given that he's passive and you are betting he might have slowplayed an A3s or 3's or J's. For me, this play could only work if there were several Kings that he might float oop with on the flop then call the turn as second pair and definitely fold on the river. Then the range might be wide enough. As it stands, I think he's calling you with way more than he's folding with.

EDIT: Although there are QJ JT type of hands that might call the turn with a pair and a gutshot that would definitely fold here.

ShipitFMA 10-17-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
Well, i didnt actually bet the river herea and he scooped with Q9ss. just wanted to check that im getting called almost everytime here.

Oh, and im not mininterpriting Pokey's advice really, its just a shocking spot to use it.

His advice is just "if its likely your opponant has air and you do too, then fire a bet"

bozzer 10-17-2007 05:12 PM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
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Well, i didnt actually bet the river herea and he scooped with Q9ss. just wanted to check that im getting called almost everytime here.

Oh, and im not mininterpriting Pokey's advice really, its just a shocking spot to use it.

His advice is just "if its likely your opponant has air and you do too, then fire a bet"

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how many opponents call 2 streets with draws oop? what other hands do they do this with? flush draws don't make as much of typical villain ranges as you might think.

LT22 10-17-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Application of Pokeys advice, 3 barreling
 
grunch..

he has Ax like 90% of the time here, spades 10%

Jack would have folded to the turn bet, maybe even the flop since TAGfish are so weak tight.

if you're so excited about the turn, make it bigger

river I guess you can try to rep it, but villain probably has AT/AJ?/AQ

the only reason to bet this river is the fact that it's the ONLY way you're going to win the hand. you just have to decide whether betting is -EV or +EV. I think it's -


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