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it depends how bad your competition is. i have maintained $25/hr at 1/2 nl but it is against awful players

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2 NL and its not even close... moreso with those juicy 500 and 1000 buyin games, that is pretty awesome to have those at your disposal... The more I think about it, the average stack is the question I should have also asked. I think a winrate equal to 8-10% of the average stack per hour is attainable by anyone who isnt an idiot monkey, dont even need to be the best at the table

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agreed. at a full ring game (9+) and stacks of 300+, you should be able to make 25+/hour. very solid players can easily clear 40.

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2 NL and its not even close... moreso with those juicy 500 and 1000 buyin games, that is pretty awesome to have those at your disposal... The more I think about it, the average stack is the question I should have also asked. I think a winrate equal to 8-10% of the average stack per hour is attainable by anyone who isnt an idiot monkey, dont even need to be the best at the table

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Agreed.

3/6 limit is a card catching contest. You have to catch cards & hope your hand outruns the other 9 idiots chasing you all the way to the river. There's no strategy or hand reading. It's no foldem holdem.

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with the introduction of NL live over the last 3 years, limit games have become somewhat tighter. good limit players still have an advantage in the game, but nowhere the advantage of NL players

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2NL by far.

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The shame here is all of the newer players that are going to see this thread, and then get down on their game when they're not making $25/hour playing 1/2 live

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I wouldn't drive 35 minutes one way to a casino 3 times a week if I was only making $16/hr. Over the past approximately 90 hours I have sustained about $80/hr

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LOL, you dont even know the definition of sustain yet. Come back to this forum and report your results when you hit 3,000 hours. Even then you haven't come close to determining your true winrate.

as a mod sometimes I wonder if we should lock or move these 1/2 NL winrate threads, they tend to be filled with pipedreams and inaccuracies.

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2 NL and its not even close... moreso with those juicy 500 and 1000 buyin games, that is pretty awesome to have those at your disposal... The more I think about it, the average stack is the question I should have also asked. I think a winrate equal to 8-10% of the average stack per hour is attainable by anyone who isnt an idiot monkey, dont even need to be the best at the table

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Agreed.

3/6 limit is a card catching contest. You have to catch cards & hope your hand outruns the other 9 idiots chasing you all the way to the river. There's no strategy or hand reading. It's no foldem holdem.

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You say this like its a bad thing...

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dont you think this can be a bad thing. if you cant get anyone off a hand then it is a card catching contest. welcome to playing 9/4 ubernit style. i feel this way alot when im playing 1-2.

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2 NL and its not even close... moreso with those juicy 500 and 1000 buyin games, that is pretty awesome to have those at your disposal... The more I think about it, the average stack is the question I should have also asked. I think a winrate equal to 8-10% of the average stack per hour is attainable by anyone who isnt an idiot monkey, dont even need to be the best at the table

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Agreed.

3/6 limit is a card catching contest. You have to catch cards & hope your hand outruns the other 9 idiots chasing you all the way to the river. There's no strategy or hand reading. It's no foldem holdem.

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You say this like its a bad thing...

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dont you think this can be a bad thing. if you cant get anyone off a hand then it is a card catching contest. welcome to playing 9/4 ubernit style. i feel this way alot when im playing 1-2.

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Sure, it can be bad when you experience the painful part of variance. But its pretty [censored] sweet when you experience the fun part of variance. And in the end people making lots of mistakes = awesome.

Edit: Look at a simple case where everybody every time stays to the river. All things being equal we break even (minus rake).

BUT, since we have control over the money that goes into the pot (by betting) when we have a strong hand we make more money because we make the other people pay to see the river. When we have a weak hand we fold preflop and don't pay anything. Therefore we make more with our strong hands, we lose less with our weak hands, and in the end we make more then the other players.

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I'm not interested in playing limit live as I understand it's pretty much dead at this point.

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LOL. Live limit is super profitable in Vegas. And also California, I'm told.

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All things being equal, would one make more at 3/6 limit or 1/2NL?

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1/2 NL plays bigger than 3/6 limit, so there's a rake problem at 3/6. Also, the worst NL players are playing 1/2 and so they tend to make very big mistakes occasionally. It's not possible to make a very big mistake at 3/6 limit.

However playing games like limit 8/16, 10/20 and 15/30 are going to be as profitible or more profitable than some 1/2 NL games. You can probably find some 1/2 NL games that are more profitable than the limit games too though. Very table dependent.