Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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i think shoving is worse then folding. Were Calling like 1/12 of our chips OOP, but it has more to do that reraising/shoving seems like a total spew to me, you let Below play perfect. He folds AQ and TT if u make it 1300 and you let him shove AK, AA, KK and QQ. Just because hes zomg legendary "spewtard" belowabove, does not mean hes going crazy with 88 here.

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Below is not folding TT here everytime. Our line looks sooo BSey. He's not expecting us to be flatting a big pair 100+bbs deep to a co raise.

also i sometimes find myself assuming people are playing back at me light just cause i know im so aggressive even though they havn't had a ton of history with me. so i'm sure below does the same thing to some extent given how he knows he is renowned as being a huge lag. but i could be wrong about that.

and also below just likes to make moves. there is a non 0% chance that he would shove over are raise with a weak hand.

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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raising sucks for obvious reason of Below is only calling with a better hand.

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lolololololololololololol

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nath that's vs. you

vs. me he is likely to act differently lol

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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below really squeezes that light in early levels? oh and yeah nath great input in this thread A+

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my point was made, read djk's post if you want to know why

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

Our line looks BSey? Yea Most likely, this is like the second level of the tourney... I really don't think he is raising light from the BB like ever, and i dont think hes gonna "go with a read" and ship 175 bbs in the pot with 67s, in the early level, just because our line looks wierd.

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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Our line looks BSey? Yea Most likely, this is like the second level of the tourney... I really don't think he is raising light from the BB like ever, and i dont think hes gonna "go with a read" and ship 175 bbs in the pot with 67s, in the early level, just because our line looks wierd.

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I think he would absolutely do those things

not all of the time, but enough of the time

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

NEVER EVER FOLD.

Does Below know who you are?

Because if he knows your decent he has to know you like never have QQ+ here and rarely JJ+ AK that's the thing our hand is basically the exact top of our range and there's no way Below excepts to show up here with a hand as strong has JJ so I probably 4bet to like 1000 and call a shove. If I don't do that I call and re/evaluate. If I hit a good flop I can definetely see my self donking 3/4 pot and snap calling a shove.

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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shoving or raising sucks for obvious reason of Below is only calling with a better hand. I think folding is ok because were OOP against a crazy man, and calling is prolly ok as well.

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Below isn't folding nines,tens,AQ,AK here and probably not sevens or eights from my play with him and what I know of him. Don't rule out AJs, though with us holding two jacks its a rare case.

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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Cutoff opens for 90. SB is hero here and calls for 90 with jj(mistake imo unless youre playing to trap a known lag). BA rasies to 420.


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Call. c/r non-Ace flops and shove most turns. (divide stacks wisely and get most chips in in two chunks.)

If you raise pf to 1200, you raise alert and action may stop on the flop.

Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

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raising sucks for obvious reason of Below is only calling with a better hand.

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lolololololololololololol

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Re: JJ in sb versus BelowAbove
 

I'll expand on this more but if you call pf and the flop is 932r its a such an easy bet call. If you donk below will shove so many high cards/any draw and will never fold a pair. (I.e. he's never folding.