Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

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I'd decided not to tell stories about others without their knowledge, but marking the cards deserves the bad publicity.

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Change her name to Siri and nobody will know the difference, or start delivering Gabe stories - your choice.

Question to all: Should Iris be forced to pay for the replacement deck as a penalty since she was found intentionally damaging the deck? Why should the house be forced to eat the cost of the replacement?

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Since the casino doesn't pitch and entire deck, but rather just the bad card, the actual cost to the place was 1/52nd of a deck. Sure...bill her 20cents.

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I don't think this is true. They always brought a new deck at commerce when I was there two years ago. I think that allowing a setup anytime someone asked but charging a $1 is crazy. People used to use the setups just to get a smoke break and grind the game to a halt. If they did it everytime someone asked there would only be 3 hands delt an hour at commerce tables.

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They don't bring a shrinkwrapped deck. They mix the cards back into new decks and bring those out.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

Ha! I agree - just like those who sit stubbornly with their arms crossed until a certain dealer has left ("terrible dealer"); along with those who throw their cards swiftly at the dealer, meanwhile whining, "New set-up!", "Extra shuffle!"

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

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Since the casino doesn't pitch and entire deck, but rather just the bad card, the actual cost to the place was 1/52nd of a deck. Sure...bill her 20cents.

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I don't think this is true. They always brought a new deck at commerce when I was there two years ago.

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Many places bring a single replacement card if one is gimped. And when they bring new decks, it isn't a new deck, it's just 52 unique redback and 52 unique greenbacks.

Guess you've never seen the stacks of cards some places keep? 10 green ace of spades in a row, 10 green deuce of spades, 10 three's... All nicely sorted and ready for someone to grab a single card.

No, they don't toss out an entire deck when a single card is bad.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

She drives me crazy in the 60 game. All she wants to do is slow the game down when she is loosing. She is one of the biggest dealer abusers Ive ever seen at the commerce.

The funniest old white lady at the commerce is that Russian lady. She will play for 3 days straight and loose $15,000. Her dealer abuse is so out line and over the top you cant take it seriously.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

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Simple solution to this is to allow set ups WHENEVER a player requests them. Then just charge the player for a new deck of cards +1 dollar for Administrative fee's.

This would save the casino a ton of dough and would basically pay the casinos cost for new decks.

After dropping 50 dollars in new decks every day Iris would eventually stop asking for setups

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No, her and all the other tilty fish would just take their business to 1 of the other 300 cardrooms in the Los Angeles metroplex that dont charge for set ups.

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Um, if they're throwing her out, they are, in essence, telling her to go play somewhere else.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

Commerce is the Capital of Dealer Abuse. Because they tolerate it.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

I understand the sentiment but, of course, with players asking for set-ups you get to play fewer hands against them. The 60-120 game at Commerce is a time collection and it's $216/table/hour.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

The correct punishment, in my judgment, is to ban her from the casino. She was marking a card.

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The correct punishment, in my judgment, is to ban her from the casino. She was marking a card.

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I agree, but if she has been doing it out in the open forever, they have basically been condoning it. It's one thing to ban someone for marking cards, and another to allow them to do it for months, then ban them out of the blue. I think sending her home for the day and telling her if she does it again she will be banned is the best solution.

Re: Iris Caught Marking the Cards at Commerce
 

I think she plays as poorly as ever, but she's universally regarded, and justly so, as the most horrible person who plays mid-limits at Commerce. And that's saying something.

I agree with Chris. Maybe I'd feel differently if I were playing for a living; I doubt it. I don't care if she were worth two big bets an hour to me all by herself. I hope to never see her again.