Re: T9s trips river fold
 

The most likely hand for UTG is an overpair.
CO's range is a flush, 9x or a boat.

We have 18.4% equity vs CO's range. That's enough to call.

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

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The most likely hand for UTG is an overpair.
CO's range is a flush, 9x or a boat.

We have 18.4% equity vs CO's range. That's enough to call.

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**** poker stove, we have trips in a 14BB pot

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

Oh yeah I forgot its a 2/5 blind structure

Obviously makes preflop worse/less good. With a loose/bad BB I still call tho. If BB is tough I can prolly find a fold - altho its not exactly my forté

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

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Oh yeah I forgot its a 2/5 blind structure

Obviously makes preflop worse/less good. With a loose/bad BB I still call tho. If BB is tough I can prolly find a fold - altho its not exactly my forté

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with a 2/3 structure, I'm calling PF. I'm not a supernit, just a nit [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

Call this river every time. That was a bad fold. Also pf is ok. If cutoff does not cold call then I fold but as is you played it fine (until the river).

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

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Therefore, it's probably best to check-call 1 bet on the turn and fold if it goes bet-raise.[/quote

uggh. We flop a monster, build a big pot, the turn check is so.....every gets a good chance to out draw us?

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

I must say I am a little surprised that the vast majority of responders say that this fold is bad.

Normally I call in this spot, but I think I was swayed by the responses in PJ's recent "massive hero fold" where he folded the nut straight on the river getting 25:1 when I donked the rivered flush.

Shortly thereafter, I posted "massivish hero fold part two" thread where where I folded top two pair on the river getting like 25:1 where it was 'obvious' that my two pair was counterfeited.

In both of those threads, the overwhelming responses were 'that is a good fold', or 'easy fold', even though the OP in each thread was getting much better odds than I was in this particular hand.

I think the mistake I made in this hand was giving the player with donky-ish stats too much credit, as opposed to when PJ 'believed' that I had the flush every time because I am a "solid player" and played the hand exactly like a flush.

So, when you are in a spot like this vs a relatively unknown villain with donkeyish stats do you usually assign like 10-20% of his range to shenanigans?

River: CO bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.
Showdown: CO shows 55. Ship the pot to UTG's TT.

[censored] my [censored] you son of a [censored]! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Nothing tilts me like folding the winner.

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

I've just been following this thread a little, but your post above is correct. multitable tag grinders are the most trustworthy opponents you can find. obv they still make moves, but like in PJs or one of heisenbergs river folds, you can be almost 100% sure of your fold based on the actions of a tag and pass up very long odds on a call.

fwiw, when I first read the hand, my instinct was you madea good fold. Howvever, this is also a leak of mine; I occasionally use bad judgment in spots like this and tend to be too foldy.

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

Players saying that this is a call PF are overestimating their postflop expectation.

Re: T9s trips river fold
 

but still, it is ten nine suited. it has to be close. pairs are good in Lhe and this hand can make decent ones, flushes, and the max # of straights.