Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

cant believe all the responses saying fold. is it because of chat or do you fold otherwise too?

Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

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although the answer depends very much on the flow of the match, i strongly lean towards a fold. villain could be overbetting pot since from his perspective you have played this hand like you either have air or a strong enough hand to call a big bet. therefore, if villain has any kind of good hand then it is higher ev to overbet here. of course villain could be thinking one level deeper in which case this is a call. since you don't have extensive history and since the likelihood of someone thinking at a deeper level goes down, it seems more likely that villain has a hand.

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Yes, this is a situation where the flow of the game makes the reasonably difficult decision a bit easier. A spot where 10000nl players like yourself make gut feeling reads and the information we have been given isn't necessarily enough to make a decision. In other words, the game theory aspect of the hand is not really as important in this hand as is the game flow.

Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

I think I'd fold, I don't know too much about this guy, but if he plays anything remotely like a prima reg he's gonna get it in on this flop with a draw a lot. Especially since you're likely 3betting many of the hands that hit this board and thus aren't representing a whole lot. Though I don't know how he views your c/rs aside from this and I suppose he could play a draw slower if he believes you're not full of [censored] here very often. Plus, if he does get to the turn with a draw, he's certainly betting some % of the time I think.

As far as the river it's unlikely he expects you to be very strong here and I think he probably folds out all the weaker hands for much less so this could easily be a shove that looks bluffy hoping for a hero call.

Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

his thought process alone, makes this a call.

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cant believe all the responses saying fold. is it because of chat or do you fold otherwise too?

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i didn't really take the chat into account since these things can have so many different interpretations based on the level of the players that i don't think it adds any significant information, unless there's some history here. if this were a live game against an inexperienced player and he makes a speech, i turbo muck. it's hard to use the chat box to make a reliable enough decision in online games with decent to good players.

Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

Honestly, you should mention that you are playing a very, very nitty style for a highstakes player, playing something like 1ike 16/12, since this is definitely something that will make players way more prone to make big bluffs on you here as well as in general.

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Honestly, you should mention that you are playing a very, very nitty style for a highstakes player, playing something like 1ike 16/12, since this is definitely something that will make players way more prone to make big bluffs on you here as well as in general.

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18/15 when it is 6max, but whatever, more aggressive the more shorthanded it is.

Re: 50/100 4 handed
 

I guess my sample of 16/11 over 1k+ hands is heavily skewed then.

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I guess my sample of 16/11 over 1k+ hands is heavily skewed then.

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im loling

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18/15 when it is 6max

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Yeah....rrrrigght