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DJ Sensei 08-21-2007 06:50 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
I could raise the flop, but calling is cool too. Don't think one is necessarily much better than the other in this spot.

KingGeedorah 08-21-2007 08:47 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
This is pretty good because j10o plays the exact same way but when it comes to image are you popping light? (Im thinking he might think j10s will 3b/fold instead of flatting depending how you've been behaving) and whats ur image as far as bluffing been at the table (have you been caught yet, etc?)

If the answer to both of these is no, then this is def goot

homeboy604 08-21-2007 09:53 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
i like a flop raise.
as played i like a turn check behind.

tcorbin16 08-21-2007 09:54 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
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only great hand that really makes sense for you is JT

[/ QUOTE ] and???

btw 77 and AQ make perfect sense, most of the responses in this thread are awful...

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flawless u have clearly never played with josh before....

Josh. 08-21-2007 09:59 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
i think this is mandatory once you've played it this way up to this point

bigbabyjesus 08-21-2007 11:20 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
Wow, missed flush draw = DO NOT BLUFF JOSH 3336!!!!!

You could probably value bet KJ here though.

ipokeder 08-21-2007 11:49 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
i don't get why you say that you put him on a big hand

when board is KQ7Ass and he checks the turn to you, he is repping weakness not strength, strength would be continuing to bet. KJ/AJ/AT/A5/even QJ maybe are what his play is visibly aligned with. especially if he's an aggressive player as you say, a vast majority of the time he's going to be betting the turn with twopair+ since you're taking a free card so much with a flush draw or checking back a pair + gutshot, and of course basic metagame, if he wants to barrel this very good turn in the future he also has to bet it with at least a pair of aces

yeah he might have AA/KK/AK/AQ sometimes if he's playing it tricky but not nearly often enough, and the important thing is that HE DOESN'T EXPECT YOU TO PUT HIM ON THAT RANGE. i.e., when you overbet shoves into him when he is playing his hand slowly, he is going to think you're trying to make him fold the mediocre hand that he's repping and therefore he should call.

that's just what i think anyway and i obv am a terrible station tiltmonkey so w/e

poker1O1 08-21-2007 11:56 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
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He might fold AJ.....maybe.

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This is insane. Of course he's folding AJ. I think a set calls here a large % of the time. The gray area lies in the AK/AQ type hands, and I'm really not sure what to think. Overall, I like the play, but would say that it's marginally EV+.

Diet_Coke_Whore 08-21-2007 11:58 PM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
[ QUOTE ]
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only great hand that really makes sense for you is JT

[/ QUOTE ] and???

btw 77 and AQ make perfect sense, most of the responses in this thread are awful...

[/ QUOTE ]

flawless u have clearly never played with josh before....

[/ QUOTE ]how is this relevant?

tcorbin16 08-22-2007 12:53 AM

Re: overbet river bluff
 
coke whore sorry you dont get it, you must not ever "read" your opponents or take notes.


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