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This guy also knows more about the effects of someone's genetics on their life than you do. Do you see why?

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This guy is a racist, sexist, homophobic, old windbag. You somehow look up to him. Nice.

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Borodog is not a racist, sexist, homophobe or old windbag. I don't look up to him, just like him. Stop calling other posters names.

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Which assumes that "Intelligence must be primarily genetically based", but provides no proof.

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This is obviously true. Do you see why?

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Is there an accurate way of measuring intelligence? No
Have scientists proved the existence of genes responsible for intelligence? No
Do I see why? No

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How exactly did intelligence evolve if there are no genes governing it?

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I don't doubt that genes play some role in determining a persons intelligence. I do however doubt that intelligence is the only or even primary factor (ESPECIALLY considering why two asked, answered questions from me, that you quoted above).

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Which assumes that "Intelligence must be primarily genetically based", but provides no proof.

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This is obviously true. Do you see why?

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Is there an accurate way of measuring intelligence? No
Have scientists proved the existence of genes responsible for intelligence? No
Do I see why? No

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How exactly did intelligence evolve if there are no genes governing it?

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I don't doubt that genes play some role in determining a persons intelligence. I do however doubt that intelligence is the only or even primary factor (ESPECIALLY considering why two asked, answered questions from me, that you quoted above).

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Can I have the English translation of this?

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This guy also knows more about the effects of someone's genetics on their life than you do. Do you see why?

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This guy is a racist, sexist, homophobic, old windbag. You somehow look up to him. Nice.

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Borodog is not a racist, sexist, homophobe or old windbag. I don't look up to him, just like him. Stop calling other posters names.

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I was assuming you were referring to James Watson. "This guy" is somewhat vague.

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However, if intelligence is not genetically based, why can't I have a conversation with my cat?

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This is so much better than the way I put it.

I do try have conversations with my cat though. He just hasn't found anything I've said interesting enough to respond to yet. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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This guy also knows more about the effects of someone's genetics on their life than you do. Do you see why?

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This guy is a racist, sexist, homophobic, old windbag. You somehow look up to him. Nice.

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Borodog is not a racist, sexist, homophobe or old windbag. I don't look up to him, just like him. Stop calling other posters names.

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I was assuming you were referring to James Watson. "This guy" is somewhat vague.

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Well if he was talking about Boro, then let me point out that Boro is a PHYSICIST so he doesn't know crap about genetics. A ball flying through the air or some planetary orbit crap, sure. But REAL science like biology and genetics? Ha! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I understand that strictly speaking, concluding the premise is a logical fallacy. However, if intelligence is not genetically based, why can't I have a conversation with my cat?

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You can't have a conversation with a Zulu tribesman either. What does this prove?

Also, I never said intelligence was not genetically based. Re-read my original statement.

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This guy also knows more about the effects of someone's genetics on their life than you do. Do you see why?

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This guy is a racist, sexist, homophobic, old windbag. You somehow look up to him. Nice.

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Borodog is not a racist, sexist, homophobe or old windbag. I don't look up to him, just like him. Stop calling other posters names.

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racist, sexist, homophobic, old windbag

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Attention Mods. I would kill for this as an Undertitle.

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I understand that strictly speaking, concluding the premise is a logical fallacy. However, if intelligence is not genetically based, why can't I have a conversation with my cat?

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You can't have a conversation with a Zulu tribesman either. What does this prove?

Also, I never said intelligence was not genetically based. Re-read my original statement.

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The reason people are arguing with you is because you said that Watson talks about intelligence having a genetic basis without ever proving it. The point we are trying to make to you is that it is so self-evidently true that intelligence has some genetic basis that there is no reason for Watson to waste time proving it. If his whole argument depended on intelligence being 100% inheritable then yes, that would have been a grave oversight. But thats not what happened.