Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

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Not raising best hand save money to weak nits who donk every flops.

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Also if he folds a worse hand if you raise but bet again if you call?


Dude. I am done arguing. You refuse to read the arguments or you just dont understand them. Whatever.... Raise the flop and burn money.

Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

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WHEN DONKS OR UNKNOWNS DONK THE TURN IT IS A DRAW ALMOST ALWAYS. I WILL NEVER FOLD A HAND WITH SD VALUE WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THAT LINE!!

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Disregard. he didnt donk the turn... Turn fold is fine.

Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

And you really think he's folding here ? He could easy showdown his ace high.
He can also check raise the turn with air, but then it's up to your read on him.

Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

so it's a fold turn?
What card do you fold turn??

Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

everything oink said about just calling the flop is correct, but id like to talk about the turn. I disagree that a donk is always a draw in the first place, and second, one of the draws got there and we're drawing dead in a small pot if he has it. We're also drawing thin against a lot of hands which he could easily have, like 8 or T with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Re: 89O BOUTTON
 

I take passive lines quite a bit. However, in this case, I like a flop raise for value and I'm calling down further action unless the board gets really ugly.