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Paging Ed Miller..

Isn't this like really bad? When pot is this huge laying 17:1 odds you just dont fold. One bet is like a check, insignificant. Doesn't really matter much if the villain is good or not IMO.

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"Yes, learning to fold correctly on the river is an important skill. If you call routinely with hopeless hands, you have a big problem...

...For instance, just last night I folded K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] board for a single bet, closing the action in a 23BB pot." --Ed Miller

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...te_id/1#import

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"Yes, learning to fold correctly on the river is an important skill. If you call routinely with hopeless hands, you have a big problem...

...For instance, just last night I folded K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] board for a single bet, closing the action in a 23BB pot." --Ed Miller

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Wow. Lol'd @ this quote.

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http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...te_id/1#import

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Nice find. That thread is actually very interesting and relevant for this current discussion.

I guess the original idea of that Ed Miller simplification of never folding river in a big pot is that if you are not sure, for example villain is complete retard and is actually bluffing 50% of time with air, you are making a huge mistake and it's not close. You have to really know your opponent to make this read accurately enough that the decision is close. I'm not so good and so I will make these calls if not only for peace of mind.