Re: River value?
 

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i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here

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well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first.

Re: River value?
 

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Don't give pf advice

River is all I care about

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this is a serious question...

are you FGators?

Re: River value?
 

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i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here

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well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first.

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ikes he said the one villan has been raising every ccbet. the second is passive tho

still hate the flop check?

Re: River value?
 

yes, obv

if he's raising every cbet just go broke

Re: River value?
 

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yes, obv

if he's raising every cbet just go broke

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Re: River value?
 

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i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here

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well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first.

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ikes he said the one villan has been raising every ccbet. the second is passive tho

still hate the flop check?

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if reg bets and fish calls, even worse spot IMO and even if fish folds its still an annoying spot as c/raising is dumb against competent players (only get called by better or shoved on with poor equity against his range), and cold calling just makes u lost in the hand, leading out is much better, maaaaaybe u could do this with a stronger hand (c/raising makes much more sense with it) but even then it would suck if this flop was checked around.

Re: River value?
 

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yes, obv

if he's raising every cbet just go broke

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hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot.

Re: River value?
 

hijacked!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously tho - river is (imo)

c/f >>> b/f >>> c/c >>> b/c ???

Re: River value?
 

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yes, obv

if he's raising every cbet just go broke

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hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot.

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learn what a conditional operator means...

IF he's raising every cbet just go broke.

I don't see him raising extremely light here (b/c its multiway), but theres all sort of [censored] he and the fish can call with.... just bet.

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yes, obv

if he's raising every cbet just go broke

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hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot.

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learn what a conditional operator means...

IF he's raising every cbet just go broke.

I don't see him raising extremely light here (b/c its multiway), but theres all sort of [censored] he and the fish can call with.... just bet.

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Yes, I agree with betting as said earlier, but not with going broke against reg. If villain is raising literally every c-bet over a decent smaple (4 c-bets or more) then sure go broke as hes prob a monkey.