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tmcdmck 11-04-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
funny how they are high stakes players and this is a $22 tournament . . .

HokieGreg 11-04-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
Good point

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tmcdmck 11-04-2007 11:01 AM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
but seriously greg, what kind of post was that? maybe i am wrong and you lot are right (i am more than happy to accept the posters you named are mostly better than me), but it is bs to back up your view by pointing out who agrees with you, it should be settled by reason. the whole point of this forum is to think through hands, not say "i'm right youre wrong"

HokieGreg 11-04-2007 11:08 AM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
It's a 22 dollar tournament and you are playing a breakeven low-stakes player. You raised preflop in position. People play horribly and over-value hands oop in raised pots. This is the reason we raise in position and play tight oop. You are giving villain way too much credit.

We don't have a read that villain doesn't play marginal hands this way. We have tptk on a dry board in a 22. Some villains are just not capable of making a normal-sized raise. It doesn't automatically mean "i have the nuts." I'm sure I could dig up plenty of hh's where i get 4bet or 5bet and villain is just over-playing top pair or some garbage draw. It's just such a standard play at this buyin level.

Kharlog 11-04-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
3-bet more on the flop. 500 is good. Shove on turn if get called. Call if get shoved.

If you decide to 3-bet that little then you have weird situation if villain does something like min 4-bet. This is almost always a monster though but you're getting compelling odds. So, maybe call and re-evaluate on turn?

ChicagoRy 11-04-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
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funny how they are high stakes players and this is a $22 tournament . . .

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Like most of the players any of us face in a 110 or 220 are playing way different than a decent 22 player.... Most of the people that sit in 110s are just breakeven or losing 22-33 players anyways.

The only person you might say that isn't brushed up on low-mid stakes wide ranging donks would be BCM. But that's only because he plays a [censored] ton of 220-550-1100s, so on a whole he's used to better players. As for me, hokie and probably Nixon too... I think our opinion is valid and should not be discounted because we play up to 110-220.

daveT 11-04-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
FWIW, I play at these stakes as well, and TNixon is always moving up and down, so I think he has requisite, and recent experience there as well.

ChicagoRy 11-04-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
I was just replying to an ignorant comment.

I don't know what your post really means, but Nixon agrees with stacking off here. So we're in agreement I think, Dave.

daveT 11-04-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
It was an annotation, that if they can't trust the high limit players (LOL), at least some of us still play small.

Touche on the weirdness of this whole thread. I was with you.

TNixon 11-04-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Any major leaks how I played this??
 
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and TNixon is always moving up and down

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I seem to do a lot more moving down than moving up.

I don't think it's supposed to work that way.

:/

The lion's share of my games are 55 or lower, though. 1400 <= $10, 2500 $20-$30, 1400 $50-$60, and only 500 over that.

I do play regulars though (on FT, where the regulars are fairly close to PS turbos for the first 15 mins or so), and I'm still getting stacked here almost always. In a turbo, I'd be even MORE likely to get em in. Far too many villains are willing to stack off with hands as bad as second or even underpairs to the board for me to consider folding.


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