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MatthewRyan 11-26-2007 07:43 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
animus, enough with the italics, im gunna have to ignore ur posts

Irish Mafia 11-26-2007 07:49 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
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preflop sucks big time. Id rather shove turn since u still have a ton of outs and it looks stronger. Also, ur not checking that turn with anything that beats Tx =p

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Uhh - i'm quite sure 3-betting A-8o pf is not his standard. But to stay it sucks is pretty silly - particularly if you have a good read on villain and you are in position.

Also, Matthew, i'm curious why you say that OP would never check back something that beats Tx. Do you never look to trap w/ a big pair by checking back a turn?

wtf5 11-26-2007 07:58 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
the river shove is so much more stronger than a turn shove esp given what the turn card was.

If villain is decent then i quite like it. If hes bad then hes just not folding.

AAismyfriend 11-26-2007 08:05 PM

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the river shove is so much more stronger than a turn shove esp given what the turn card was.

If villain is decent then i quite like it. If hes bad or really good then hes just not folding.

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jfish 11-26-2007 08:47 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
i dont think calling 66 vs kratzer on the river is particularly good.

Speedlimits 11-26-2007 09:18 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
bet turn

thejerkface 11-26-2007 11:26 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
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animus, enough with the italics, im gunna have to ignore ur posts

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AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-26-2007 11:30 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
tthis is usually pretty bad

cts 11-26-2007 11:34 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
i'd always shove turn but i actually kind of like the river bluff

MatthewRyan 11-26-2007 11:39 PM

Re: changed my mind 5/10
 
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preflop sucks big time. Id rather shove turn since u still have a ton of outs and it looks stronger. Also, ur not checking that turn with anything that beats Tx =p

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Uhh - i'm quite sure 3-betting A-8o pf is not his standard. But to stay it sucks is pretty silly - particularly if you have a good read on villain and you are in position.

Also, Matthew, i'm curious why you say that OP would never check back something that beats Tx. Do you never look to trap w/ a big pair by checking back a turn?

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regardless of his read, A8o should goto themuch here always.

as for ur other questions: first of all, i dont do anything always or never when it comes to postflop. However, on this board I would v rarely check back JJ or better because betting the turn is > ev then check turn + bet river; and inline with my overall game, ANdddd i think it has more FE (altought that depends i suppose).


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