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ike 11-25-2006 04:37 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
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74s is a "really thin fold" if you 4 bet it to $1650 and the guy shoves for $5k?

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You have 30% equity against the range of jj+ aq+ and need 33% to call. Its a clear fold, but that doesn't mean its not close. The EV of putting in 1650 and folding is only slightly better than the EV of putting in all 5k and having a chance to suck out against reasonable ranges. So if shoving gives you much more fold equity at all its worth it.

Parlay Slow 11-25-2006 05:48 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
Your range, not mine.

Against 99+, AK you have less than 25% equity

dcb777 11-25-2006 06:22 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
Running badly, I don't mind pushing here, but often end up seeing KQ suited beat me in a big pot. I feel you pain. Just calling here leaves you in a tough spot if you miss the flop and while running badly this may be tough emotionally. I you are up you may not mind calling preflop and checking folding, but I can see why you might want to push running badly. Is this right here????

Ansky 11-25-2006 09:36 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
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Running badly, I don't mind pushing here, but often end up seeing KQ suited beat me in a big pot. I feel you pain. Just calling here leaves you in a tough spot if you miss the flop and while running badly this may be tough emotionally. I you are up you may not mind calling preflop and checking folding, but I can see why you might want to push running badly. Is this right here????

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LOL WTF?

RiverHebrew2 11-25-2006 12:28 PM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
i've run like S*** too lately, but you rele shouldn't play if ur afraid of still running bad b/c that will lead to further poor play; personally i like the reraise size and if he shoves ur commmited to call but played fine

MagicNinja 11-25-2006 03:00 PM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
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Your range, not mine.

Against 99+, AK you have less than 25% equity

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I like how you just made a particularly good range to beat the hand he suggested; it'd be a pretty interesting player who pushes 99 but not AQ for example (and i'm going to go right out and say that if the person is 3 betting you light enough to warrant pushing 99, not pushing AQ is retarded.

Parlay Slow 11-25-2006 06:31 PM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
In my experience people will much more readily 5-bet shove 99 than they will AQ

raptor517 11-26-2006 12:09 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
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In my experience people will much more readily 5-bet shove 99 than they will AQ

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maybe i dont 4 bet enough.. but i dont exactly see 99 very often when ppl 5 bet shove.. holla

Ansky 11-26-2006 05:26 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
This one time I was on megatilt for the first time ever basically... I was bb w/ Q8s OMGClayAiken raised to 105 on the button, I made it 330 in the bb, he made it 1000, I shove for 4500. He snap calls w/ AKo.

DATS NO LIMIT BABY

ahnuld 11-26-2006 11:59 AM

Re: preflop checkie cause i have lost every pot in the last 7 days,
 
200bb he called?


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