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KakiTee 07-28-2007 06:48 AM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
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fwiw I think he rarely has a ten here

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but does he think you'd check a T or a set on the turn with those stacks?

- dumping is easier

NMcNasty 07-28-2007 10:43 AM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
Very annoying spot. I think its a chop about half the time here and you're beat the other half. I guess you have to fold.

ike 07-28-2007 10:48 AM

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also, consider betting turn pls

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why?

ActionJeff 07-28-2007 01:07 PM

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also, consider betting turn pls

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why?

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as a bluff- to vary your play- because its often more +EV than checking - etc

MDMA 07-28-2007 01:27 PM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

ActionJeff 07-28-2007 11:33 PM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?

etizzle 07-28-2007 11:41 PM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?

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well your basically turning your hand ino air, which it isn't. there really arent that many better hands that you are gonna get to fold. Plus you have outs against a T, which will certainly pay you off if you hit (well probably pay off)

Jiganti 07-29-2007 12:42 AM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
This is a fold. Your only other option is to raise, because you don't really beat anything, besides KJ which I don't really put him on here.

ActionJeff 07-29-2007 02:11 AM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
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I'm sure you can find a better part of your range to fire the turn with than AJ here.

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I think you're wrong. Care to elaborate?

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well your basically turning your hand ino air, which it isn't. there really arent that many better hands that you are gonna get to fold. Plus you have outs against a T, which will certainly pay you off if you hit (well probably pay off)

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I think ur overestimating the value of ur hand and underestimating the value of a bet. Both hitting a 5 outer and villain having a ten is a pretty unlikely scenario, and our range is relatively narrow here. Just because we soert of have showdown value doesn't make this a check.. I think you should be betting here more often than checking

any other players at these stakes want to comment? im interested in opinions

also if villain is calling with a better 2 pair hand or something then hes just spewing

garganasaur 07-29-2007 02:44 AM

Re: annoying river spot 25/50
 
bet the turn if you're not prepared for a tough river decision, then you can dictate that amount, and might get some better hands to fold


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