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FoldYourLife 12-03-2006 07:49 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
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Firstly, this hand wasn't played by me. The guy is not a 2+2er and have a 23% ROI after 730 games. I think it will be hard to find better than him. Well he raised to 300 and feel happy with it.

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lol fold

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PM from Ryendal:
"your post is ridiculous, but good luck"
My reply:
"I'm not trying to be an [censored] with my post, but it's a fold and it's not even close. What is your friend's SN?"
Reply from Ryendal:
"He is better than you, bye"
PWND!!!

BoYLeBaNoN 12-03-2006 07:52 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
What are you guys doing with KQ in this situation

AllinDan 12-03-2006 07:55 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
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the first part of your answer show a flaw in your process thinking.

The second part shows that you are a prick

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lol. What flaw is that? I think raising utg here is a losing play. Many seem to agree, please explain to us what we are missing?

I'm not sure how the 2nd part of what I said is prickish in any way; feel free to elaborate, or don't, whatever.

Shillx 12-03-2006 07:56 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
You can make a good argument for both folding and shoving. This is one of my favorite shoving hands and I'm highly biased toward it but still folding > pushing in a typical sng. If this hand were in a vacuum then shoving would probably get the nod.

edit - QJs > KQo so fold that. Probably sack up and push KQs.

AllinDan 12-03-2006 07:58 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
shillx: QJs is one of my favorite shoving hands too, but I think it's pretty bad right here. You just aren't that desperate.

Ryendal 12-03-2006 07:59 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
I don't like your ton, that is why I really don't feel any enthusiam eplxain you something. Since it is whatever for you, we are ok.

PS: The fact that you don't see how you acted like a prick is very funny

tozzy 12-03-2006 08:11 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
The fact that you obv don't see that a ton of regulars and some newbs (as me) are repeatedly stating that doing anything else than folding this hand in this specific situation is a leak and will cost you (or your friend, whatever) money in the long run.
If, however, you don't like money, this play is absolutely fine.

Ryendal 12-03-2006 08:22 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Tozzy, I guess you don't see that I fold myself and my point is that I give credit to a raise. The other point is to try to think out of the box.

Moreover I know who are the regulars and who is good.

AmazingErvin 12-03-2006 08:26 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
This is a fold, the end. Pushing is certainly -EV so that's out. Raising is bad since someone is very likely to pick up a hand better than yours. If you're at the tightest table in the world blah blah yeah you can make a case whatever, but anything except folding here is a leak.

Just because it's unconvential and "thinking outside the box" does not mean it's good. You don't see this play often because it's bad.

tozzy 12-03-2006 08:27 PM

Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100
 
Then you are crediting an awful play.
I'm glad you know whos good and whos not, but i suggest you take into consideration that some hugely successful and active regulars are posting in this thread.


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