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HEK 07-26-2007 12:38 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,054,764,800 games 0.005 secs 410,952,960,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.381% 44.10% 00.28% 906209160 5720946.00 { 55 }
Hand 1: 55.619% 55.34% 00.28% 1137113748 5720946.00 { 77+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }


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this is pretty close to his range but throw in 22-66 also.

betgo 07-26-2007 12:45 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
Aside form villain maybe playing weak/tight, look at it from villain's point of view. This is the bubble and you pushed apparently having no FE. He is not putting you on 55. Even if you are loose, he has to assume something like 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+ for you, and he needs something like that sane range to call against that range even with the pot odds.

HEK 07-26-2007 01:09 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
I shoved. SB reshoved for 85k. MP tanked and eventually folded AJ.

No A, J or 5 on the board and I'm out.

I was thinking about this hand the whole way home thinking I should have just folded my 5's. But it's good to know the consensus here was to push.

Dave D 07-26-2007 01:41 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
Just to add, foxwoods players tend to be weak/tight/nitty in my experiance more than anywhere else I've played (AC/Vegas). It might be different in this big buy in tourney, but that's another reason to push.

HEK 07-26-2007 02:22 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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Just to add, foxwoods players tend to be weak/tight/nitty in my experiance more than anywhere else I've played (AC/Vegas). It might be different in this big buy in tourney, but that's another reason to push.

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oh fwiw...there was this hand villain and I played about 2 hours before at another table:

I have 250k
Villian has 170k
We are #1 and #2 in chips ovarall atm.

800/1600/200a

He raises UTG to 4500. I call on button with 78o

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He checks ([censored]), I check

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet 10k, he calls

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet 17k, he calls w/A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Dave D 07-26-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
I hate that flop check, get some value in there. There are a fair amount of cards that you hate that could come (any club, any J. Villian might be going for a C/R and then you have a great chane to get it AI.

HEK 07-26-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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I hate that flop check, get some value in there.

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value from what? I doubt one of these foxwoods idiots is going to c/r me on that board with an overpair/set. I didnt have a great read at the time but basically read was this:

fairly aggro preflop, half-decent player, likely straightfoward tagfish.

So yeah i check the flop all day vs this guy to get value on the turn from AK/AQ.

relativity_x 07-26-2007 02:38 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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Hand 1: 55.619% 55.34% 00.28% 1137113748 5720946.00 { 77+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }


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That's his opening range, but definitely not his calling range.

I'd say he's calling with AQs+,88+.

HEK 07-26-2007 02:39 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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I shoved. SB reshoved for 85k. MP tanked and eventually folded AJ.


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forgot...sb had QQ

Dave D 07-26-2007 02:50 PM

Re: Simple 3k Foxwoods megastack hand
 
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I hate that flop check, get some value in there.

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value from what? I doubt one of these foxwoods idiots is going to c/r me on that board with an overpair/set. I didnt have a great read at the time but basically read was this:

fairly aggro preflop, half-decent player, likely straightfoward tagfish.

So yeah i check the flop all day vs this guy to get value on the turn from AK/AQ.

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You were there and I wasn't so obv you're in a better position to know the situation, but personally I think I would bet because he has JJ-AA a fair amount and might call down, or at least call the flop.


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