Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

Do people think that Nick ever plays AA or KK this way given that he has 2 very aggressive players behind him?

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

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You two are so cute.

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

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You two are so cute.

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You three are so cute.

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

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Why does noone shove the turn? This is effectively a 200/400 hand... you only have a little over 100 BB's with 45k. There is about 5500 put in preflop, and by the time it gets to you on the turn, 3k + 6k + 16k = 25k + 5500 = 30/31k. Why call? You have AJ, nick probably isn't folding any jack with a worse kicker here... he could have a bunch of draws, and if the river blanks I don't think he bluffs (I seriously doubt nick would put you on a draw, so therefore your turn call = river call, he will shut down IMO). So by calling you are giving him a free shot to beat you if he's semi-bluffing, and I don't see you folding any blank rivers anyways. So where is the value of calling?

Surprised noone has said this, but this is an easy turn shove imo.

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agreed fully.

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

All those saying shove the turn, what hands do you think Nick is calling with that we are ahead of? Are we representing flush draw by doing so?

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

Id snap call, and expect to see a bluff.

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

ill shrug my shoulders and call, ill rr turn tho

Re: Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover
 

Villains' stacks are pretty important - we need to know more than that whether or not they cover your 45k.