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Nez's posts are more accurate about my feelings of kbar than Neil's.

Kbar is a wolf. Lynch him. Please, please, please lynch him.

I have never felt this good about lynching somebody on d1.

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That was overdoing it. :/

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basically, everything I thought was wolfy about LC/Kbar yesterday I dont think is wolfy anymore.

Including these two back-to-back LC posts. As a wolf, LC probably doesn't make the 2nd post.

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1. Supine has hardly been a poke and prod, say things to get reactions out of people kind of guy.


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This is my first long game. I intended to take it very seriously, and still do, but I've had a lot to do the last few days so have not been able to participate as much as I'd like to. Something feels wrong about the shortline/gt1t conversation d1, but I needed more to work with so I was hoping to provoke something wolfsounding from gt1t.

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3. "atm you are not my premiere vote." - the Wolfy Wording Hall of Fame called and said this quote will be inducted immediately.

Supine are you in the UK?

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As for my posts sounding wolfy I attribute it to my lack of english skillz and general WW inexperience.

I'm in the process of moving to London (part of my afkness) but some trouble along with some personal matter have arised which means I will not actually be on english soil until early september.

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the more I reread- (still on D1) the more I actually do want to lynch Shorty for real.

Fish is also a possibility.

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bojtun has me convinced

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bojtun has me convinced

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of what?

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bojtun has me convinced

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of what?

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Villageriness

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im more and more convinced that Shorty is the right lynch today

He has no real arguments for being a villager. I think a part of his lack of involvement is that we've never really given him the chance to come in and start running things.

He just comes in every so often and makes a post going after villagers, and this includes LC who I now think is good.

He says if he was a wolf that we wouldn't have lynched Kbar D1, but Kbar was insanely wolfy and Shorty never mentioned him once, and instead tried to start wagons on Neil and Bojtun.

Also, he started the day off voting Luckay AFTER Neil had already made his peek post, and made a point of mentioning once that he was voting Luckay. That may not be much, but its something.

So Lynch Shorty plz

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Hmm, Luckay is clearing kbar along with two others I found villagery. This could have exciting implications.

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I just want to say this to Neil:

Even though you pretty much outed yourself as the seer D1, considering that they had two chances to kill you before you got a peek again, I think you played it right in making it clear you peeked Luckay. Had it just been a village peek obviously you'd want to not do that.

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hey all
didnt read a word since i left
im outty in a few, ill try to catch up when i get home
just gotta go give mets a point before i goez

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Scott,

before you go, vote Shorty plz

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ready for a crazy last minute bandwagon?

remember when i used to do these?

BOJTUN

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even though Shorty never says he thinks Kbar is a villager, obviously the implication is that he does think that, which is ridiculous considering Kbar's posting and the fact that Shorty was around all day and surely read those posts.

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Couple of things:

Shorty can be absolutely anything right now, he is coming off a frenetic wolf game in pirates II.

I have a strong inclination that luckay is village.

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fnord as a wolf probably doesnt come in late in the day and fake peek luckay when luckay is wolfing it up trying to save Kbar?

I'm pretty sure Fnord is a villager, though it would be nice if he started posting more.

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just trying to make these wagons interesting

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so shortly after shorty votes Bojtun, he then votes Fmx and follows that up with this post, as if to excuse the fact that hes trying to push anybody but Kbar (who he never once mentions once)

this is actually a really wolfy post

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Bottom line he either doesn't care, or is a wolf, or both

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after everything i did to protect him, then he goes and gives it up in one post [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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i suppose one argument is that shorty really was trying to protect Neil

another argument is that he was trying to find out for sure he was the seer by putting pressure on him

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Bottom line he either doesn't care, or is a wolf, or both

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but since when has villager Shorty not cared?

Shorty always cares even if he doesn't put in a lot of effort.

And this game he just plain sucked, and his end of D1 was wolfily awful. And all he can say today in response to pressure is, "doesn't matter we have a big lead, and if I was a wolf we wouldnt have lynched all those wolves"?

He really needs to die.

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I'm not digging these late Kenny votes and sly fmx votes.

Kbar

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Open your notebooks and note this.

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this was pretty villagery from Clown at the end of D1

and his start of D2 I thought was also very villagery

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So today has been quite involved huh?

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So today has been quite involved huh?

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well, we're getting places

you've read my posts on Lastchance and Shorty and you still think LC is the better vote?

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what am i supposed to care about?

the two wolfiest people were the top wagon each day. i never seriously tried to disrupt their wagons, because i thought they were fine lynches. i just felt we wouldn't learn anything if there were no other options.

if i wanted someone lynched over kbar/luckay, you would have known about it.

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lastchance.

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what am i supposed to care about?

the two wolfiest people were the top wagon each day. i never seriously tried to disrupt their wagons, because i thought they were fine lynches. i just felt we wouldn't learn anything if there were no other options.

if i wanted someone lynched over kbar/luckay, you would have known about it.

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lol

we're supposed to buy this?

1) Nothing that happened yesterday matters. Luckay was dead the moment they killed Kenny.

2) You just can't argue that because Kbar/Luckay got lynched, that you wanted it to happen.

You never once mentioned Kbar and tried to push all sorts of people who I think are villagers.

Are we supposed to believe that if some wolves jumped onto Fmx or Kenny that you would have switched to Kbar?

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?

And how the hell can you go all of D1 w/o talking about Kbar once?

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So today has been quite involved huh?

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well, we're getting places

you've read my posts on Lastchance and Shorty and you still think LC is the better vote?

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I'm actually quite torn at this point in time sir

Like, some of what you are saying makes sense

But I struggle going against what has been my only good read the past two days

There are just so many meh players in the game right now, which is strange

I keep wanting to go back to Fish as a default

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?

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ever?

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?


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while i may be the most outspoken about them, shorty had a strategy thread devoted them about 2 months ago, so he also believes in them

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?

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ever?

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basically, you're saying that you never mentioned Kbar once because you felt that we had a handle on it, even though you thought he was the wolfiest player, and that you tried to push a bunch of other people (all likely villagers) for dual-wagon purposes, not caring about how that would make you look when Kbar turned up wolf (which you would have thought likely of course)?

Is this what you're saying?

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that is pretty much what Shorty said and it is complete and total bs, and I hope you guys realize that.
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Nich,

I would appreciate it if you switched from Lastchance to Shorty.

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I can live with a [shorty] vote

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Why shortline is evil (by lastchance):
The biggest reason why I think he's evil is that he's going after me. I am not evil. Shortline seems to care about this game, and if he was good, he would be lynching teh wolves, not lynching teh villagers.

However, there are actually other reasons why shortline is evil. As a villager, shortline definitely likes to push people for reactions. On d1, he did a little of this. However, his pushes were deliberately designed to be confusing and not effective at getting reactions.

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the question is, with luckay and lastchance on the same team, wouldn't they try a little more FPS? is it possible for them both to be wolves?

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This is a horribly wolfy post coming from shortline, IMHO. Shortline doesn't ask open-ended questions here. On top of that, he completely brushes this aside to push me and Luckay both being wolves for the rest of the day.

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that list is a combination of everyone i've said, + a peeked villager, + VR (someone else who's been accused), and me (someone who fmxda accused). no dustin, clowntable, nothing out of the ordinary that suggests original thought.

btw, dustin and clowntable are both villagers

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This is an awfully wolfy line, especially the second sentence. I don't think shortline accuses bravos of being a wolf based on bad wolf lists. He doesn't accuse gt1t of being a wolf based on a bad list (he just says, you are rusty or some crap). Plus, being accused by one person doesn't mean a whole lot. It's just what I think shortline-wolf says, and shortline-villager never says.

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Also, Chuckles basically said "If I'm seer, LC is a villager."

Chuckles is dead.

Anyone want to draw the conclusion?

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And I'm surprised noone mentioned the fact that he decided to vote FMXDA who had hinted at having peeked him wolf.
That's exactly what he did with books in Pirates.

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lol CL

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LC even

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okay.

GT1T is back on my villager side for agreeing with me about luckay/lastchance as wolves.

the question is, with luckay and lastchance on the same team, wouldn't they try a little more FPS? is it possible for them both to be wolves?

the worst kbar conversations came from lastchance. definitely sound contrived, and some very like the wolf-wolf conversations from Mafia (there were plenty) or Pirates 2.

i think i have a handle on dustin's wolf-wolf conversations now, and we are not seeing wolf dustin in this game. or wolf clowntable, for that matter.

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this really is a wolfy post both for what LC just mentioned, and for the way Shorty clears me- though I'm not sure I can really explain why.

I think village Shorty would clear me outright, he wouldn't say its because of my conversations with Kbar, especially when I didnt have any.

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agreed about eskimonk too. i am curious to see if eskimonk opposes a lastchance wagon today.

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and this is a typical wolf Shorty post

1) Eskimo is pretty likely a villager
2) its just plain wolfy

the more I read the more confident I am that Shorty is evil

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supine is also a possible wolf, and scotthoward is a likely villager.

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its possible that Supine actually is a wolf

im starting to have serious 2nd thoughts on him. And I think at some point Shorty (assuming hes a wolf) actually names another wolf- and considering that Supine was still largely considered clear at this point, naming another villager and causing suspicions of Shorty to raise even more seems silly.