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Nez,

I have. I agree that there is some shady stuff there.

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This LC stuff is a laugh. He's capable of throwing a wolf teammate under the bus D1, but if he did, his reward is to NOT get lynched on D2 regardless of what he is.

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I dont think this post is wolfy in the least. It doesn't feel contrived to me at all and I think its the way Bojtun thinks.

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This LC stuff is a laugh. He's capable of throwing a wolf teammate under the bus D1, but if he did, his reward is to NOT get lynched on D2 regardless of what he is.

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I dont think this post is wolfy in the least. It doesn't feel contrived to me at all and I think its the way Bojtun thinks.

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It's wrong though

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also, look at Bojtun/Luckay interactions D1 which don't feel w/w at all.

This is all in addition to the fact that Bojtun has seemed totally normal, not wolfy, and I have a decent history of reading him well.

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being wrong doesnt mean being wolfy and you know that

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being wrong doesnt mean being wolfy and you know that

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Well duh, I just wanted to point it out

His insistence on the point came off as wolfy

He seems too confident to me for some reason

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everyone i've voted or mentioned this game is still fair game on my wolf ilst.

bojtun
supine
luckayluck


and also fmxda

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Shorty,

this post of yours was a joke? You looked at my village list and decided to name 3 of my villagers and a dead wolf?

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sadly we probably shouldnt lynch shorty

I'm sticking with my theory that he is playing like crap intentionally to stay alive and get lots of peeks. Wolves, you might want to kill him soon.

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I'm willing to lose to Dustin and Nez at this point, they're 95% villagers.

Village:
Dustin
Nez
nichp
scotthoward
gt1t

Watchlist:
bojtun
fnord
spacab
supine
bravos

Wolfy:
shortline
fishmonger
lastchance

Anybody I didn't list I'm not paying attention to

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i said luckayluck, and i meant lastchance

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i said luckayluck, and i meant lastchance

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it was the other 3 names that earned my vote

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Nez -> VR

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Nez -> VR

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zlolz

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yay, i earned a vote.

who cares. two wolves, two days. if i was a wolf, i would have stopped you.

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Nez -> VR

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Seriously, noone?

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yay, i earned a vote.

who cares. two wolves, two days. if i was a wolf, i would have stopped you.

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I think you tried repeatedly D1 to get some other wagons going without mentioning Kbar once

and you would have stopped us lynching Luckay?

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really? i "tried" on day 1?

read closer

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Nez -> VR

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clown

nez is 100% cleared in my mind

i would never ever ever vote him

seer said "if i die, don't lynch nez ever"...he knew when he died that we'd know he was seer

neil was lynched for luckay=wolf, but his actual peek was nez=villager

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I believe shortline was a part of the movement to lynch lastchance and bravos yesterday, I could be wrong as I didn't reread.

Doesn't matter, shortline is still a wolf for other reasons.

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really? i "tried" on day 1?

read closer

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just tell us wtf you are doing this game then?

and give us an honest wolf list please?

whats your best guess at the last 3 wolves?

if you dont start playing for real I want you dead and I dont care if you turn up village

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Nez -> VR

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clown

nez is 100% cleared in my mind

i would never ever ever vote him

seer said "if i die, don't lynch nez ever"...he knew when he died that we'd know he was seer

neil was lynched for luckay=wolf, but his actual peek was nez=villager

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nich, while I personally believe that "if I'm the seer" posts should be believed over anything, it's very possible Neil was killed for a potential peek of Nez as village, so combined with his villagery posts, I agree that everyone should clear Nez

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Nich,

Neil's actual peek was Luckay=wolf. But if you want to pretend he peeked Nez thats fine. But thats still not a reason to vote Clown.

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Nez -> VR

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um what?

I think I'd rather lynch myself than nez. WTF.

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I kind of want to lynch Nich

Is that horrible?

Also, my shorty vote was kind of a joke

Kind of

Lastchance

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There was an error in the last count, please make sure this one is correct.

[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[0] Bulletproof Monk
<font color="red"> [2] clowntable voted for Nez477 </font>
[0] DustinG voted for shortline99
[0] fishmonger voted for clowntable
[0] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time voted for lastchance
<font color="red"> [2] lastchance </font>
[1] Nez477 voted for lastchance
[0] Nicholasp27 voted for clowntable
[0] ScottHoward v3.1
<font color="red"> [2] shortline99 </font>
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 9

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Alright, bridge is on for tonight. I think Lastchance is villager. I don't have a good second wagon, and dont have the time to find one. Kbar is fine though

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This is the only time Chuck mentions any player with any kind of opinion at all.

We are not lynching LC today.

If he's a wolf and wants to railroad one of his partners on D1 and then kill chuckles in an attempt to make himself clear - while giving our seer a freebie - then lol LC.

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Also [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to everyone who is clearing me

But those who have 100% cleared me need to stop, collaborate and listen, Nez is back with a brand new... thought

Why is Nich assuming Neil peeked me? Why did Fnord assume Luckay was peeked? Why is VR calling me clearer than herself?

I mean, there are many assumptions being made since we killed off the wolf that Neil supposedly peeked and Nich comes in saying "LDO, Nez was the peek"

And VR, do you just read me this well? Or do you believe Neil peeked me?

Clown is a villager, stop voting him

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Dustin what's your stand on Bravos? You were convinced he was a wolf yesterday.

And you keep saying Supine is a villager, but his GT1T interactions and excuses are awful.

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Nich,

Neil's actual peek was Luckay=wolf. But if you want to pretend he peeked Nez thats fine. But thats still not a reason to vote Clown.

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unless u are mod, u don't know neil's actual peek

i don't think he says "if i die, don't ever vote nez" if that's not his peek, as he KNOWS that if he dies, he'll come up seer

if he just said "never vote nez" i would be on board...but saying "if i die" in front means that he saw nez villager


and clown is already on my wolf list

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Nez or anyone else (read: Ekilol) who is wasting their time suspecting me, just go re-read D1, or D2. Really.

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Here is the thing w/ LC (besides Chuckles getting killed):

Kbar really was insanely wolfy. I don't post that im not changing if someone claims seer often- I reserve that post for the wolfiest of the wolves. I said it for Neil in ASXIII and I said for Kbar on D1, and I'm pretty sure thats it.

And Nez saw it, and I saw it, and Lastchance....

LC made the post that Kbar was basically the best D1 lynch ever, and I agree. It was like a clinic in how to play jester.

And so LC railed on Kbar, and I made just as many posts saying how much we much we should be lynching Kbar, but the difference between LC and me is that Kbar interacted with LC and me. Had Kbar been interacting with me its likely I would have railing on him similarly.

I think we should wait on Lastchance.

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Dustin what's your stand on Bravos? You were convinced he was a wolf yesterday.

And you keep saying Supine is a villager, but his GT1T interactions and excuses are awful.

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I've been intentionally not talking about Bravos today until he posts.

I just started reading and im still convinced that Supine was ultra-villagery at the start of D1, but I'll update my stance on him once I finish.

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i think it's VERY likely that one of the people pushing kbar from earlier on in the day is a wolf...village tends to 'clear' people who push for and get a wolf lynched d1

but if a wolf saw it was gonna likely happen anyway and so figured they could clear themselves by pushing kbar

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Nez, why would you 180 on supine?

Is it wolfy from you?

Also, why do I think you're a wolf despite voting for kbar?

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I love how we've all agreed that Kbar is a wolf, and have moved onto who is throwing him under, Supine's status as a result, etc.

But its pretty much true.

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The top quote is Lastchance, the bottum quote is me. GT1T also talked about this too.

LC posts like he knows Kbar is a wolf.

But the problem is that so do I.

Also, looking at some of the other LC/Kbar interactions, I dont think that LC was as 'over-the-top' as I previously thought.

Also, Shortys early D1 can be interpreted as him knowing Neil peeked Luckay.

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Re-reading Supine he goes 13 posts without saying another player's name. Granted he was caught up in the scintillating debate over whether he should claim villager in his opening post, then he finally gets mad at Scott - which is always a good thing.

Then he says he read everything and has "decided that Fnord is a wolf."

Then Dustin says, no, bad, vote Kbar. Supine switches to Kenny.

He later switches to Luckay - this is the only thing I found villagery about him - of course Luckay was in little danger at the time.

D2 he says GT, reasons coming later. Reasons never come and then this exchange:

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Supine: Actually I was merely looking for a reaction. There are some things I think are wolfy in your conversation with shortline day 1. Atm you are not my premier vote.

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1. Supine has hardly been a poke and prod, say things to get reactions out of people kind of guy.
2. Second, wolves love to promise analysis and not deliver.
3. "atm you are not my premiere vote." - the Wolfy Wording Hall of Fame called and said this quote will be inducted immediately.

Supine are you in the UK?

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But also, in that above post from LC I quoted. It would be pretty interesting to accuse Nez of bussing Kbar when its in fact LC who is doing it.

And I give LC some village points for that.

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Boj,

I think the idea that wolves love to promise and not deliver is hugely over-rated. Its probably the exact opposite. And I don't find that language he used wolfy either.

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I don't have time to go through all of Luckay's hilarity from yesterday right now ... but there were a couple of things that were so fake it was obvious.

We pretty much have to ignore a lot of what he said ..because he's Luckay ... but his reactions to a couple of people were just totally bogus.

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This was definitely a weird one from Luckay. Seems totally forced, and this was when he pretty much knew it was over.

I just saw a post where he almost clears Supine, so I'll rethink all this.

I'm off to work.

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Kbar, are you evil?

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no

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also, I see this whole LC/Kbar exchange in a new light today.

Kbar had just made a super-wolfy post where he said that no wolves had posted yet, wolfy not so much for what he said, but for what he didn't say, which was acknowledge the fact that tons of people are voting him already, and I said that Kbar is already metagaming.

Nez responded to me, and then LC a few minutes later asked Kbar if he was wolfy. Not really wolfy in that light.