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Next year who do you want pitching a GAME 7 in the playoffs and feel like yes that guy is gonna be lights out.
Hughes...no
Joba...no
Kennedy...no
Wang...not really
Andy....yes

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Who was that guy from '96-'00? Other than Cone for the last couple of months of '96, the Yankees never had a super dominant, lights out starter on their World Series winning teams.

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news flash...its not 96-00
can it be done...yes

but it sure would be nice to have Beckett/Santana/etc as our number one.

I'll will wager( eventhough I am a diehard Yankee fan)

if our starting 5 is Andy/Joba/Hughes/Kennedy/Moose next year
we dont make the playoffs

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I don't disagree with the views of Thay3r etc but I do think most Yankee fans view their prospects with a best case scenario type of view.

I.E. Joba/Hughes can be awesome...thus they will be

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I agree with this. I remember Kyleb saying that the FLOOR of Phil Hughes was a #2 SP. well, that's pretty LOL. his floor is Mark Prior, or Kerry Wood, or any other young pitcher that gets hurt and is never quite the same, and at any rate is not a good productive pitcher for all his cheap years.

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news flash...its not 96-00

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You make a...compelling argument.

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Its gonna suck seeing Rowand in a Yankees uniform. He is extremely frustrating, but you gots to love him. He is too cool to play for the Yankees, trade for JD drew or some other dbag.

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I would be all for trading for JD Drew.

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I don't disagree with the views of Thay3r etc but I do think most Yankee fans view their prospects with a best case scenario type of view.

I.E. Joba/Hughes can be awesome...thus they will be

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I agree with this. I remember Kyleb saying that the FLOOR of Phil Hughes was a #2 SP. well, that's pretty LOL. his floor is Mark Prior, or Kerry Wood, or any other young pitcher that gets hurt and is never quite the same, and at any rate is not a good productive pitcher for all his cheap years.

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This is a silly argument. Santana could easily get hurt as well, and the impact on a teams financials of a Hughes getting hurt is like a zillion times less than a Santana.

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well given this is mainly off of ESPN/CBS/and other web sites but I've never seen Kennedy mentioned as a:) having great stuff or B:) being anything more than a solid middle of the rotation pitcher.

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there's a reason why he was picked in the first round. if solid mid-rotation was all you could ask for at his PEAK, he would not be drafted #21.

he has four legit very good to very-very good pitches, even if his fastball is 89-92 his control upgrades it quite a bit. plus, it appears that he can get it upto 94-95, but his control is much better if he doesn't. he has also reportedly developed a two-seamer last year.

if he is a solid #3 for the yankees for 10 years and possibly #1 or #2 for 1-2 years, that's awesome. i don't know why you'd package him with your other best pitcher and a great CF and ship him for a huge contract.


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He was drafted in the first round because he was an advanced college arm, who put up great results for USC. He would be expected to be a low-risk signing, who could reach the majors quickly and contribute at a reasonable level. "Reasonable" being as a #3 or #4 starter. His raw stuff was seen as just about average, but it had a chance to play up due to his control. Where'd you hear that his ceiling was anywhere near Mussina or Maddux? That's a fairly ridiculous thing to say. People draft players like Royce Ring in the first round because they think there's less gamble in them producing on a big league level, it happens all the time in virtually every draft. "Signability" also has a lot to do with that.


Kennedy's four pitches are pretty far from "very very good". If the planets align maybe he could pitch as a #2 starter on a contender, but the chances of that are pretty slim.

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That starting five rotation... with AROD POSADA AND MARIANO coming back should make the playoffs just fine... plus they obviously can snag a #4 starter at anypoint from a small market team.... if they weren't DESTROYED by injuries early in the year they would have won the division

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That starting five rotation... with AROD POSADA AND MARIANO coming back should make the playoffs just fine... plus they obviously can snag a #4 starter at anypoint from a small market team.... if they weren't DESTROYED by injuries early in the year they would have won the division

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And we think we won't be fubarded by injuries next year becuse Damon, Hideki, Giambi, Pettite, Moose, Mo are all going on the HGH?

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I'll will wager( eventhough I am a diehard Yankee fan)

if our starting 5 is Andy/Joba/Hughes/Kennedy/Moose next year
we dont make the playoffs

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I'll take it.