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I have doubts about the villageness of GT1T, but I dont think that GT1T and LC could be wolves together.

Lastchance,

Why did you go after Kbar yesterday like a rabid.....wolf?

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Because he was evil? And for all of the reasons I said?

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If shortline doesn't get killed tonight (and I suspect he won't) we should lynch him tomorrow.

Me saying this doesn't affect the wolves decision to kill a villa-shortline much since I probably can't get shortline lynched by myself.

... or can I? zomg metagame

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I have doubts about the villageness of GT1T, but I dont think that GT1T and LC could be wolves together.

Lastchance,

Why did you go after Kbar yesterday like a rabid.....wolf?

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Because he was evil? And for all of the reasons I said?

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yeah, and I know. And I went after him really hard too, but people today want to lynch you and not me.

But it did seem like your responses to him were a little over the top, especially for how early it was. Excessive force against an obvious wolf, etc.

Also, it really was strange the way he only interacted with you. (and Scott)

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I still think dustin and lastchance are not likely both wolves...

but I think it's a lil more likely than yesterday.

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Very much villagers
bojtun
Nez477

Pretty Much Villagers
fmxda
Bulletproof Monk
supine
VoraciousReader
Supine
ScottHoward v3.1

I think they're villagers
chuckles
clowntable

Leaning Village
fnord_too
fishmonger
SpacaB

People Who Bother Me for Various Reasons
GetThere1Time
shortline99

Dont Know or Confused About
lastchance
bravos1
LuckayLuck
Nicholasp27

We should be lynching from my leaning village and down I think. If someone wants to make a case for someone thats higher than that on my list I'd like to hear it.

I've read GT's case against Eskimo and I just dont think hes evil. But since hes not getting we can worry about that later.

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FMXDA is a villager

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I am getting a weird feeling on him..

the whole "I'm cleared because KBar was on me as a wof" thing works both ways.. still undecided.

LuckayLuck for now.

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This was Bravos first and only post and it reeks and I would like to lynch him next.

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that Bravos post is just so chock full of Wolfecisms its not funny and he should die.

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continuing to rail on bravos:

obviously hes read the thread since he has a weird feeling about Fmx, but thats all he cares to post when he misses all of yesterday?

He doesn't even want to say "hi, sorry about yesterday" or anything? Just that, and then he leaves?

Who has played with Bravos in a long game before?

Regardless, there is nothing natural about that post whatsoever. If Luckay claims seer we should lynch Bravos, or Luckay.

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Last count before I'm out for the night.
Please call night yourselves if a majority (10) is reached.

[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1 voted for LuckayLuck
[0] Bulletproof Monk voted for LuckayLuck
[0] chuckleslovakian
[0] clowntable voted for lastchance
[0] DustinG
[0] fishmonger
[0] fmxda
[0] fnord_too voted for LuckayLuck
[0] GetThere1Time voted for LuckayLuck
[2] lastchance voted for LuckayLuck
 [8] LuckayLuck 
[0] Nez477 voted for LuckayLuck
[0] Nicholasp27 voted for LuckayLuck
[0] ScottHoward v3.1
[0] shortline99 voted for lastchance
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine voted for LuckayLuck
[0] VoraciousReader

 10:00 No good 
Majority Lynch = 10

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can a few of you who have voted luckay please unvote?

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I would, but I'm off to see Jimmy Eat World tonight and will not be around for nightfall, or much longer at all today

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well, nobody else vote Luckay please

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unvote

Even though I'm leaving soon and I might get lynched if Luckay doesn't. I'll try to be back before night, won't be back until at least 6:30 (PST).

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hello?

I think I'm going to have to speak real fast that I'm here and catching up and seeing why I have 8 votes before reading stuff

I know I was really really wrong on kbar, I'm not sure why my theorem failed, it always works...I think I didn't see something clearly enough. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ANYWAYS, reading

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FREAKING NEIL PEEKED NEZ

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There are two possible peeks here:

#1) Luckay = Wolf

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yes
seer claims are helpful
claiming village is [censored] retarted

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Sup biotches!
I'm the seer!
Luckayluck is a wolf!
vote luckay luck
Just kidding, I'm not the seer.

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but in the wolf list, where am I?

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shortline/kbar/clown/monk/(utr)?

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#2) Nez = Villager

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Guys, if I die, don't lynch Nez ever. I'm 99% sure he's a villager here.

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please, could it be more obvious?

IN ADDITION:

The seers do not receive a peek today. Why would I kill someone which would (probably) DOOM me with the "fake seer wolf peek on Luckay" yesterday night rather than tonight? I AM NOT THE TYPE TO SCREW MYSELF OVER LIKE THIS -- I will always re-evaluate, and in fact, due to Neil NOT LISTING ME ON THE FREAKING WOLF LIST despite "wolf peeking me", I AM NOT A WOLF

if I was a wolf, Neil would die tonight

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shortline, on a scale of 1-10, how many points is lastchance on the wolfy meter where 10 is wolfy mcwolf

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is there any way we can sort of re-evaluate and not be lynching me today?

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is there any way we can sort of re-evaluate and not be lynching me today?

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its sad that you're probably not a wolf and still need to die

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This is probably me being moranic, but neil could have peeked someone entirely different than nez or luckay.

Either way, he definitely FPSed his peek a little.

I also think Luckay's a villager for his last 3 posts, but Luckay knows how to yell at me under pressure.

That's about it. I'm going.

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I think to emphasize:

I will NEVER kill off a seer who fake peeked me or my teammates as a wolf

wolves luckbagged into framing me when the real peek is nez

arggggggggg

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I could vote for Lastchance today, I'd be fine with that

But Luckay, your d1 was wolfy or bad

I mean, Luckay makes a good point about a) He doesn't kill Neil last night (likely) and b) I really think Neil probably peeked me for some reason... I mean, what seer makes a wolf list without his peek in it?

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Lastchance is also probably a villager

Shorty and/or GT1T is probably a wolf

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Had Luckay even started posting yet when Neil made that list?

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unvote

Even though I'm leaving soon and I might get lynched if Luckay doesn't. I'll try to be back before night, won't be back until at least 6:30 (PST).

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the thing about lastchance is I'm not sure this is necessary at all if he's a wolf

he'd look none the worse (and not much better) for not just lynching luckay here

somehow, the entire village is going to have to choose a new target

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in the meantime let me look at some good ol' hemmoraging action!

why didn't anybody look at the final votes on kbar yet

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so, then luckay, what do you think of this vote?

hang shortline by the neck until he turns blue and then is dead?

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shortline wagon is a go

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He claimed to vote fmxda to make it interesting, I say he did it because he thought he's a seer that peeked him

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Kbar's Hemmorages:

#1) ScottHoward is a villager++++

Huge interaction chain in which Scott starts the entire kbar wagon.

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Supine is my number one villager read

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Really, I'm less than convinced.

I'm liking my vote right now after his first post.

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kbar
kbar is currently voting for fmxda?

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yea, what of it?

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you like your fmx vote because you think supine is a wolf?

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no

I'm not convinced he is a villager, but I'm also not convinced he is a wolf. Calling him a number one village read is a stretch imo, but I'm not willing to vote him yet.

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ok, my bad. i thought you were saying you were currently voting for supine,etc. im an idiot. carry on

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early early results:

clown
kbar
monk
shorty

2-3 wolves in there for sure

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I'm not a fan of any of those tbh.

I really feel that, except maybe fmxda, no wolves have posted yet.

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#2) Lastchance is a villager

omg I just realized this
why the hell is lastchance another wagon?

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And goddamn, kbar feels completely evil.

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Thats quite a read you think you have to make that statement after 3 posts.

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ok, those are the hemmorages from kbar's posts

now to look at his voting

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Luckay, what time zone do you live in?

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guys,

Shorty is the seer and will be nk'd by the wolves tonight.

Lets lynch Bravos is really is wolfy/weird.

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continuing to rail on bravos:

obviously hes read the thread since he has a weird feeling about Fmx, but thats all he cares to post when he misses all of yesterday?

He doesn't even want to say "hi, sorry about yesterday" or anything? Just that, and then he leaves?

Who has played with Bravos in a long game before?

Regardless, there is nothing natural about that post whatsoever. If Luckay claims seer we should lynch Bravos, or Luckay.

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I didn't say "sorry for missing yesterday" because everyone always says that is sooo wolfy..LOL

My other post was maybe a bit mis-said. My weird feeling about fmx, was because of his.. "Obviously I am soo cleared now that KBar turned up wolf". Just because KBar was a wolf, clears no one. I have used this strat in the past, as in pounding on a fellow wolf early with mixed results..

1. The bandwagon on a wolf-mate would die off and someone else would get lynched. Eventually, if me or the other wolf was lynched, it would go a long way in removing suspiciousness from the other.

or

2. The bandwagon actually picked up steam leaving the pushing wolf two choices.. a. Throw the other wolf under the bus to gain village cred, or b. try and divert the bandwagon but risk it becoming obvious.

My statement regarding fmx was only because his post seemed to be trying SO hard to villagerize himself since KBar was a wolf. When a wolf is lynched on day one, NO ONE becomes 100% cleared of anything.. even the person that made the final vote if the decision was inevitable. I have no clear read on fmx since nothing seemed to be super wolfy or super villagery (if that is possible in the first 1.5 days), but he did seemed to be trying possibly a bit to hard to remove any wolf suspicions in that post.

My stance on Luckay is only because our seer was eaten, but basically pointed to Luckay before he died. Anyone no going that route is suspicious also.

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This LC stuff is a laugh. He's capable of throwing a wolf teammate under the bus D1, but if he did, his reward is to NOT get lynched on D2 regardless of what he is.

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ok, put yourself in a wolf's shoes right now

it's early in the day, here is the vote count. Kbar is a wolf.

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[1] Bulletproof Monk
[0] chuckleslovakian
[0] clowntable voted for Bulletproof Monk
[0] DustinG
[0] fishmonger
[1] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time
 [2] kbar13 voted for fmxda 
[0] Kenny McCormick voted for Nez477
[0] lastchance
[1] LuckayLuck
[1] Nez477 voted for kbar13
[0] Nicholasp27
[0] ScottHoward v3.1 voted for kbar13
[1] shortline99 voted for LuckayLuck
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

 10:00 No good 
Majority Lynch = 11

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what do you do?
well, certainly, something you don't do here is vote kbar

#3) DustinG is a villager

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ok, another reread/skim after a little more coffee

supine is a villager

kbar

for the reasons Nez said

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#2) lastchance is a villager (again) +++

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Nez, I reread kbar in Mafia. I also remember CYOA kbar.

kbar

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and our dead kenny votes for kbar too

so at this point the vote count is:

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[1] Bulletproof Monk
[0] chuckleslovakian
[0] clowntable voted for Bulletproof Monk
[0] DustinG voted for kbar13
[0] fishmonger
[1] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time
 [5] kbar13 voted for fmxda 
[0] Kenny McCormick voted for kbar13
[0] lastchance voted for kbar13
[1] LuckayLuck
[0] Nez477 voted for kbar13
[0] Nicholasp27
[0] ScottHoward v3.1 voted for kbar13
[1] shortline99 voted for LuckayLuck
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

 10:00 No good 
Majority Lynch = 11

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and you'd think it's time for the wolves to make a move to derail it...

and who does so? ah yes, our good old shortline.

that will come later, for now, let's clear more villagers

#4) Chuckles is a villager

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Alright, bridge is on for tonight. I think Lastchance is villager. I don't have a good second wagon, and dont have the time to find one. Kbar is fine though

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this is pushing kbar further up when it's still feasible to save him

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[0] Bulletproof Monk
[0] chuckleslovakian voted for kbar13
[2] clowntable voted for Kenny McCormick
[0] DustinG voted for kbar13
[0] fishmonger voted for clowntable
[2] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time voted for fmxda
 [5] kbar13 voted for fmxda 
[2] Kenny McCormick voted for clowntable
[0] lastchance voted for kbar13
[0] LuckayLuck
[0] Nez477 voted for kbar13
[0] Nicholasp27
[0] ScottHoward v3.1 voted for kbar13
[1] shortline99 voted for Kenny McCormick
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

 10:00 No good 
Majority Lynch = 11

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so here's the count at 5:43 PM. If you're a wolf, you push clown/fmx/Kenny here.

#5) bojtun is a villager

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Alright I'm heading back to work. Kbar unless he comes back here and dazzles me or someone else goes off the wolfy charts.

I'd love to lynch UTRs for the first three days straight tbh.

Chuckles is the only Kbar voter I'm uncomfortable with right now and the way he worded his vote ... kind of a "don't blame me if he turns up villager" thing seems strange.

If kbar turns out village, we should look back at that.
If Kbar turns up wolf, we should still look back at that.

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I don't see bojtun being so cruel to make the vote here as a wolf

#6) Luckay is a villager

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[vote kbar]

this is vote #7 on kbar
11 to majority

anyone draw anything from this?

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yes, I understand that my vote wasn't serious and it was "meant" to actually break up the kbar wagon by demonstrating that it was just running away, but still, I don't make this vote as a wolf

part 2 to come soon

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Fmxda

To derail Kbar.

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*cough*