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daveT 11-11-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
lol fold.

Dromar 11-11-2007 10:20 PM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
Hand 31

Blinds have increased to 25/50.

(SB)Hero 1005
(BB)Villain 1995

Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Hero raises to 100. Villain raises to 1995 (all-in). Hero folds.

Hand 32

(SB)Villain 2105
(BB)Hero 905

Villain posts 25, Hero posts 50. Hero has 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 125. Hero folds.

Hand 33

(SB)Hero 855
(BB)Villain 2145

Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero?

Dromar 11-13-2007 02:19 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
Hand 33

(SB)Hero 855
(BB)Villain 2145

Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero folds.

Hand 34

(SB)Villain 2170
(BB)Hero 830

Villain posts 25, Hero posts 50. Hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 125. Hero?

Dromar 11-13-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
Hand 34

(SB)Villain 2170
(BB)Hero 830

Villain posts 25, Hero posts 50. Hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 125. Hero folds.

Hand 35

(SB)Hero 780
(BB)Villain 2220
Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero?

chrismystero 11-14-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
Alright, who chose 'raise' 82o ?

Dromar 11-14-2007 02:13 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Alright, who chose 'raise' 82o ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I was wondering that too. If we're folding 85o two hands ago, we're definitely folding 82o now.

anyway...

Hand 35

(SB)Hero 780
(BB)Villain 2220
Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero folds.

Hand 36

(SB)Villain 2245
(BB)Hero 755

Villain posts 25, Hero posts 50. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Villain folds.

Hand 37

(SB)Hero 780
(BB)Villain 2220

Hero posts 25, Villain posts 50. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Hero?

chrismystero 11-14-2007 03:22 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
We are card dead imo

Vinetou 11-14-2007 04:51 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Alright, who chose 'raise' 82o ?

[/ QUOTE ]

You probably realized already that some jerk is making fun of this thread the whole way and votes for the worst option everytime.

Kharlog 11-14-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
I'd like to hear discussion about minraising vs raising something like 2.5-3x at blind level 25/50. Why is minraising better? I heard that minraising and cbetting half the pot is pretty profitable against average opponent.

The point is (I think, I haven't really minraised that "deep") that minraise gets more calls but also gets many folds on the flop and is cheap to do so it's a good low variance play on these levels.

Betting to 2.5-3x put more pressure on opponent and will get him to fold more often. Giving up against a shove is also a bit tougher. Also the flop bet will be larger so it's very often push/fold situation on the flop. But is that a bad thing?

I see that a minraise preflop makes the betsizes ugly to play against on postflop. Pushing is quite risky and calling (½ pot) gives opponent good odds to outdraw and get BB so pot committed that it can be tough to give up.

Now that I have given this a thought it seems that minraising from the button makes sense. Is there someone who would say that raising more is better?

Vinetou 11-14-2007 05:44 AM

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 
Kharlog, search for Chicago's Ry Pooh Baah post. He gave some good insight about why he prefers a minraise over normal raise.


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