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pikkupossu 11-27-2007 02:30 AM

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sylar needs his own show, one without mexicans, unless its him going on a rampage killing mexicans for fun.

kristen bell is hot.

hiro's line of 'i have to avenge my father' made me choke

mohinder is super humanly dumb.

every scene with claire was painful to watch.

glad this show ends in a week. will be looking forward to doing something else on monday nights. will not watch again unless sylar gets to kill a lot of people next season.

ClubChamp04 11-27-2007 02:32 AM

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OMG this show was horrendous. The scene where the dude came to Claire's house to bring the ashes was a joke, like he would ever be able to walk out of there when the crazy wife has a gun and grieving. The comic book escapade was a complete waste of time. The whole storyline of Sylar turning Mya was unbelievably bad. The part where her bro found the article and she was like "NO, NO I don't believe it" was easily the most annoying of this episode, how stupid can one person be?. Adam and Peter at VPratts house was also terrible. Adam lets her loose with the shotgun right in front of her....what do they think is going to happen? Peter says "you didn't have to do that" and then brushes it all off after thinking about it for a sec...just horrible. I sound so negative but there was very little that was good about this episode.

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Why is Peter a freaking moron? Everyone keeps telling him Adam is bad, and he just keeps denying it for no reason.

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Trusting Victoria wouldn't make sense. Adam busted him out of the pokey for crying out loud. Why he doesn't mind read him I don't know.

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Ya wtf is that?????He can just read Adam's thoughts if he wanted to know the truth. Hiro also could've tried to explain what was happening before trying to run through Peter to kill Adam [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I don't think that is going to work out too well for Hiro. I knew Peter was going to back him though.



Does anyone know if next week is the last show ever? I imagine they will try to bring it back next year if possible but I really have no idea how the ratings are. The writing is very bad, that's for sure. This could be a great show though with the right writers and some good storylines, but I doubt it will survive if this weak ass trend continues.

Scotty. 11-27-2007 02:38 AM

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I love how Alejandro suddenly knows the english language... sylar-" yeah i killed her" alejandro - "see he admits it, he's a murderer" a full sentence of english yet he had no idea what sylar was saying when he threatened him

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the word "yes" or "yeah" is generally pretty understandable to almost anyone, whether they know english or not. i don't know spanish, but if he said "si" i would understand.

AlexM 11-27-2007 02:51 AM

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Adam lets her loose with the shotgun right in front of her....what do they think is going to happen?

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Exactly what he planned to have happen. Him killing her.

KneeCo 11-27-2007 02:56 AM

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The little "I've been killed, blah, blah, blah" speech was awful and West's line after that (which I've thankfully already forgotten) was worse.

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This scene + the everything with the mimic, especially the 'I just had an idea!' eyebrow raise when she decides to go after the crooks

+ Peter's stupidity

were as bad as anything the show has ever done.

ClubChamp04 11-27-2007 03:05 AM

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Adam lets her loose with the shotgun right in front of her....what do they think is going to happen?

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Exactly what he planned to have happen. Him killing her.

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How does Peter not see that?

Russ M. 11-27-2007 03:10 AM

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How does Peter not see that?

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Peter isn't the brightest star in the sky.

Fabian 11-27-2007 03:34 AM

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How does Peter not see that?

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Peter isn't the brightest star in the sky.

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Serioysly. This season Peter has challenged Mohinder for Greatest Super Retard Power. It's too close a race to call at this point.

Anyway like everyone else is saying, this show has such awesome potential, but the fact that every character acts ridiculously retarded in every situation just ruins it too much. The "it's a comic book, just enjoy it" argument doesn't work for me either, I dunno, bleh. Of course, I'll never stop watching it anyway.

Dids 11-27-2007 11:08 AM

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alskfjaslkfjasdlfj

Things that are bad

- Hayden even being called upon to emote. STFU and look hot. Also, nobody cares that you're leaving West, because WE ALL HATE HIM.

- that Adam dude has one note, and it's playyyyyyyyyyed. Plz to be finding a bad guy who doesn't make me think I'm watching CBS instead.

- Peter and Hiro have sick crazy powers, and the only reason this plot ever moves is because they're [censored] idiots.

- Mohinder.

Things that are ok

- NO plot. It has no point, but at least it wasn't totally stupid

- Hiro stuff was kinda ok. Ando cracks me up even though all his jokes are stupid.

Things that were good

- Sylar and the Mexicans.

- Kristen Bell and Bob's [censored] up relationship

- Chuck, which owns the [censored] out of this [censored] show.

Kneel B4 Zod 11-27-2007 11:13 AM

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Things that were good

- Sylar and the Mexicans.


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wtf. unless you mean "Sylar finally killing one of the Mexicans b/c we hate them so much"

(they're actually Dominican's)

Dids 11-27-2007 11:45 AM

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In OOT they are Mexican, it's a rule I'm pretty sure.

That Mexican is SO not dead, given that he can bring people back to life.

OH, another good lol.

YOU CAN TRAVEL THROUGH TIME AND SPACE, AND THE CONCEPT OF SOMEBODY BEING 400 YEARS OLD IS THE LEAST BIT SHOCKING?

Taso 11-27-2007 12:23 PM

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Yo, ando is the man. More of ando would make the show better.

jogsxyz 11-27-2007 12:24 PM

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Maya and Alejandro aren't Mexicans. They're from some country in Central America further south than Mexico.
In the episode Lizards Maya and Alejandro crossed the Guatemala-Mexico border on their way to the USA.

felson 11-27-2007 12:30 PM

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Hayden poses in GQ

youtube clip from the shoot

istewart 11-27-2007 12:33 PM

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Sylar and Milo McFaglia are the most metrosexual douchefucks ever. This show is beyond awful. Tim Kring should just off himself.

Also, Hayden P. is real hot, but she was done a great disservice when Kristin Bell entered. She just looks like a fat 13-year-old next to her.

Daddy Warbucks 11-27-2007 01:18 PM

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To paraphrase Anchorman in regard to the last scene:

Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast!

Hiro: I'm here to stop Adam
Peter: Can't let you do that
Hiro: ALRIGHT LETS FIGHT!

Kneel B4 Zod 11-27-2007 01:38 PM

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To paraphrase Anchorman in regard to the last scene:

Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast!

Hiro: I'm here to stop Adam
Peter: Can't let you do that
Hiro: ALRIGHT LETS FIGHT!

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yeah, that broke the dumb scale.

does anyone know what I asked above? if this ended is just rushed b/c of the strike? are these episodes all f'ed up bc they are rushing to the end here?

Dids 11-27-2007 01:44 PM

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Maya and Alejandro aren't Mexicans. They're from some country in Central America further south than Mexico.
In the episode Lizards Maya and Alejandro crossed the Guatemala-Mexico border on their way to the USA.

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TO BE CLEAR:

Everybody knows they're not Mexicans. We are calling them Mexicans because it's funny to call all hispanic people mexicans in a meta-post-ironic-racist kinda way. Also Mexican is easier to spell than whatever they really are.

KneeCo 11-27-2007 01:52 PM

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does anyone know what I asked above? if this ended is just rushed b/c of the strike? are these episodes all f'ed up bc they are rushing to the end here?

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No. By all accounts the strike caused a change only in the planned ending of next week's episode (when they filmed the ep, they filmed two endings, one as a cliffhanger for the mid-season break, one as a finale).

Other than that, everything is the same as it otherwise would have been.

Though I don't know if alternate ending means 5 mins or 20 mins of next weeks ep.

Other show runners have laughed these off btw, Scrubs creator said the studio pitched an alternate ending for the last prepared episode so it can act as the series finale which basically amounts to 'nothing is resolved, but at the end two people kiss', so I wouldn't have high hopes for next week (I also wouldn't have high hopes for next week cause this show sucks, but you know what I mean).

I can't believe my beloved Veronica Mars got offered a recurring part on Lost and had to choose Heroes instead because they were willing to work around her other tv/film commitments. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Thanir 11-27-2007 04:07 PM

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You can see how they planned on having a 2nd part to this season, but the writers strike killed it. Going to be interesting to see how they wrap everything up in one episode now instead of letting it run through a handful more eps.

Nonfiction 11-27-2007 04:12 PM

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WTF the writing is so bad.

At the end, the Hiro/Peter thing, why would Hiro say he has to stop him because "he killed my father?" WTF He just [censored] went back in time and saw that Adam is evil because he is attempting to kill off all of humanity, why the [censored] doesn't he say that? "HES TRYING TO RELEASE A VIRUS AND KILL ALL HUMANITY!" I also like how Hiro once again used his excellent "slowly run at them while yelling" fighting style that he used against Sylar. Obviously the only way to stop insanely overpowered individuals is slow motion charges with medieval weaponry.

Although Peter is so retarded he would prolly be like "nooo we are saving humanity adam is goot"

Everything with Claire is awful. Ditto the copy cat chick, seriously what the [censored], I do not care about these people at all.

Also I'm so excited about the Mexicans, we are halfway there!

Thanir 11-27-2007 04:32 PM

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As much crap as Micah gets, I thought it was funny how he jumped his cousin and started throwing punches.

Wires 11-27-2007 04:33 PM

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Someone please cancel this show now so I can stop watching. Apparently Heroes has cast some sort of spell over us and we can't give it up. Last night's episode was terrible for all the reasons other posters have already mentioned but the Hiro and Peter face-off was the worst. Why did Hiro explain the situation so poorly and why wouldn't Peter give him the benefit of the doubt and have a conversation with the guy who helped him save the world only 4 months earlier?


After six years of never missing an episode of 24 I didn't think twice about dropping it before the halfway mark last year when it turned lame. Why can't I just quit you, Heroes?

Wires 11-27-2007 04:36 PM

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Hayden poses in GQ

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Urm, nice pics and all that but how does a grown man find his way to popsugar.com.

Jus' wunnerin'.

jogsxyz 11-27-2007 04:49 PM

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Someone please cancel this show now so I can stop watching. Apparently Heroes has cast some sort of spell over us and we can't give it up. Last night's episode was terrible for all the reasons other posters have already mentioned but the Hiro and Peter face-off was the worst. Why did Hiro explain the situation so poorly and why wouldn't Peter give him the benefit of the doubt and have a conversation with the guy who helped him save the world only 4 months earlier?


After six years of never missing an episode of 24 I didn't think twice about dropping it before the halfway mark last year when it turned lame. Why can't I just quit you, Heroes?

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The virus is already working on you.

CappyAA 11-27-2007 05:32 PM

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I don't understand why time still goes forward while Hiro goes back in time. After going back for whatever reason (meeting Kensei, seeing what Monroe is up to, etc.) shouldn't he just return to the same time he left at so that it is virtually instantaneous?

Nonfiction 11-27-2007 05:37 PM

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I don't understand why time still goes forward while Hiro goes back in time. After going back for whatever reason (meeting Kensei, seeing what Monroe is up to, etc.) shouldn't he just return to the same time he left at so that it is virtually instantaneous?

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Nah they've established throughout the series that time is always constantly moving, so time Hiro experiences in the past also happens in the present

Jack Bando 11-27-2007 06:05 PM

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Peter's just very trusting, look at him and Nathan season 1.

Alejandro's power is curing Maya's plague, not bringing people/self back from the dead. Linderman could heal people and he's dead.

I got a feeling Hiro's going to start using the back teleport trick used by Trunks from DBZ. (Run at guy, appear behind them) Or he'll stay a moron.

El Diablo 11-27-2007 06:05 PM

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All,

I'm hoping that the writer's strike never ends.

rt1 11-27-2007 06:26 PM

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All,

I'm hoping that the writer's strike never ends.

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same. heroes was once interesting to watch... now its just an hour of painful tv.

dankhank 11-27-2007 06:28 PM

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To paraphrase Anchorman in regard to the last scene:

Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast!

Hiro: I'm here to stop Adam
Peter: Can't let you do that
Hiro: ALRIGHT LETS FIGHT!

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yea that pretty much sums it up. it would be one thing if this was the first completely stupid thing the writers did during the episode, but it was actually the third time they had made the exact same mistake.

-for about two seconds i thought victoria was going to be an interesting problem for adam to deal with, putting doubts in peter's ear over a prolonged period. instead, adam does some gimmicky move, and she's dead.

-for maybe one second i thought alejandro would pretend to disappear and follow maya/sylar to new york. instead he gets into a fist fight with sylar to "stop" him.

we waited a whole season for these idiots to start getting in fights, and now that they are, the premise for every fight is completely retarded. wtf!

TheMetetron 11-27-2007 06:32 PM

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Maya and Alejandro aren't Mexicans. They're from some country in Central America further south than Mexico.
In the episode Lizards Maya and Alejandro crossed the Guatemala-Mexico border on their way to the USA.

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TO BE CLEAR:

Everybody knows they're not Mexicans. We are calling them Mexicans because it's funny to call all hispanic people mexicans in a meta-post-ironic-racist kinda way. Also Mexican is easier to spell than whatever they really are.

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Actually, it's pretty much just racist.

Which makes the whole thing funnier since I couldn't care less except that I got banned for typing "lol mexicans on 2p2" in some racist post Durrr made to bring light to the fact that Mexicans (like myself) actually do post on 2+2.

Really don't care, but I just find the whole thing funny. Then again it was Gildwulf who banned me and he has proven to be a horrible moderator so I shouldn't really be surprised.

Dids 11-27-2007 07:01 PM

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Of course it's racist, but we all know it's racist, so we're just laughing at how actual racists are racist, which is what makes it POST-racist. We're all very evolved.

blackize 11-27-2007 07:12 PM

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I got a feeling Hiro's going to start using the back teleport trick used by Trunks from DBZ. (Run at guy, appear behind them)

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Spoiler in white: <font color="white"> In the "coming up" portion at the end last week there was a shot of Hiro behind Peter with the sword against his neck. </font>

TheMetetron 11-27-2007 08:22 PM

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Of course it's racist, but we all know it's racist, so we're just laughing at how actual racists are racist, which is what makes it POST-racist. We're all very evolved.

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I see. Carry on then.

wisehandpoker 11-27-2007 08:49 PM

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Anyone else feel like the kid who plays Micah has the emotional range of a stone? When his mother arrived, I wouldn't have described his reaction as happy or joyous so much as 'pleased'.

Jack Bando 11-27-2007 09:18 PM

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True wisehand, but Micah punching out his cousin makes up for it. Although he should have done it sooner, and more often.

Russ M. 11-27-2007 09:19 PM

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Anyone else feel like the kid who plays Micah has the emotional range of a stone? When his mother arrived, I wouldn't have described his reaction as happy or joyous so much as 'pleased'.

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This is why he fits perfectly on this show.

Also a big FU to the writers for not dropping the stupid cousin who is an annoying douchebag.

La Brujita 11-27-2007 09:29 PM

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im confused, is season two going to be broken up into 2a and 2b?

when they say the season finale is coming up what does that mean?

TehVader 11-27-2007 09:36 PM

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WOW, after two good eps in a row I was starting to get some hope and then they give us this crap. This might just be the worst episode they've had, I think most of the reasons have already been mentioned.


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