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EWS87 11-26-2007 06:15 PM

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i have a really gross feeling in my stomach that one of these times i refresh espn and see redskins safety sean taylor pronounced...

Tyler Durden 11-26-2007 06:15 PM

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also he spits on people!

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Someone made this douche a mod?

ConstantineX 11-26-2007 06:16 PM

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The dude keeps a machete by his bedside? Damn...

Tyler Durden 11-26-2007 06:16 PM

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i have a really gross feeling in my stomach that one of these times i refresh espn and see redskins safety sean taylor pronounced...

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I've been having the same feeling for the past couple hours.

Aces McGee 11-26-2007 06:17 PM

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I've had the exact same feeling. Human nature is weird.

-McGee

Quicksilvre 11-26-2007 06:18 PM

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It's sad, but we need an "***Official NFL, Guns, Drugs, Crime****" thread.

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It sounds rather unfair to lump this in with Vick or Pacman Jones, don't you think? I mean, others have mentioned Taylor's occasional immaturity, but this just sounds like he picked an ill-advised time to confront a robber.

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:21 PM

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Someone made this douche a mod?

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Yea really. Was he convicted of a felony, thus making it illegal for him to own a firearm for home protection? I found it very odd he had a machete. Also, that thing about how a week before the shooting some guy broke in and left a knife on his bed was crazy, I'd definitely pick up a firearm after that trash.

Jurollo 11-26-2007 06:24 PM

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Someone made this douche a mod?

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At least I am not the only one infuriated by his comment. It's amazing how the internet makes people think they can say whatever they want.

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:25 PM

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Nvm, just read on ESPN the felony charges were dropped. If I were him I'd have been sleeping with a higher caliber pistol or a Benelli shotgun by my side

Vyse 11-26-2007 06:26 PM

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wow this is horrible news, i hope he pulls through =/

ConstantineX 11-26-2007 06:26 PM

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also he spits on people!

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Someone made this douche a mod?

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At least I am not the only one infuriated by his comment. It's amazing how the internet makes people think they can say whatever they want.

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Dids and tuq are like the opposite sides of the same coin. One is highbrow and the other lowbrow about their idiotic posts. But mods, of course.

Spellmen 11-26-2007 06:31 PM

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The dude keeps a machete by his bedside? Damn...

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It was reported someone broke into his home the week before and left a knife. I've had similar scares and have kept a bat and a sword in my room after those incidents, I don't see anything unusual about that

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:35 PM

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The dude keeps a machete by his bedside? Damn...

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It was reported someone broke into his home the week before and left a knife. I've had similar scares and have kept a bat and a sword in my room after those incidents, I don't see anything unusual about that

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To me it's unusual that he didn't have something more. I mean damn, that's someone breaking into your house, and leaving something that could be construed as a threat on your life. Totally justified having any number of firearms next to his bedside.

ConstantineX 11-26-2007 06:38 PM

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Muresan,

Is that really the way a top NFL athlete should handle things?

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:44 PM

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I remember a story a couple of my buddies told me awhile back. My one friend is broke, but the other created a number of websites in college that did very well, and had received a sizable inheritance from his father upon his death. So the two of them are out at a pretty upscale bar in DC at around evening time, when the wealthy friend notices a black dude sitting at the bar a couple seats down. Apparently the friend noticed what type of liquor the guy was drinking (an expensive type around a couple C notes per shot), and was a big fan of it. So he got the 3 a round of drinks and struck up conversation.

From the way it was told, they were pretty much shooting the [censored] about a lot of things, certain drinks, cars,etc. The black dude says thanks a lot for the drink, calls the bartender over and buys 3 shots of Louis XIII, which they take, and he says "hey lemme show you something outside". So they follow him and he presents a brand new Lamborghini. Shows em inside and all that stuff, but then says he has to go. It turns out (as if you weren't expecting it), it was Sean Taylor, and this was before his rookie season I think. From the way my friend told it, he was extremely down to Earth,and generally a very nice guy, despite a lot of the stuff you hear about him being a criminal,etc.

I just thought I'd share that story. Let's hope for the best for the young man.

zer0 11-26-2007 06:44 PM

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Muresan,

Is that really the way a top NFL athlete should handle things?

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are you joking?

wh1t3bread 11-26-2007 06:44 PM

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Well the guy is still on probation. Maybe he's not allowed to have a gun?. Or maybe he is being responsible by not having a loaded gun next to his bed with a 2 year old running around his house?

I hope he pulls through.

Dids 11-26-2007 06:45 PM

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Someone made this douche a mod?

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At least I am not the only one infuriated by his comment. It's amazing how the internet makes people think they can say whatever they want.

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My post looks different outside of the context of the post to which it responded. Somebody was pointing out Taylor's history with the law and didn't mention that there's some on the field stuff that speaks to the chance that Taylor is a less than swell dude.

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:46 PM

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Muresan,

Is that really the way a top NFL athlete should handle things?

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If it's for home protection, absolutely. I will NOT allow this to degenerate into a politics thread. But he's a man before a top athlete, and he has every right to protect his home, himself, and his girlfriend from what turned out to be an immediate threat on his life.


edit:and his 2 year old child

mmbt0ne 11-26-2007 06:47 PM

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Mur,

I'm not sure a dude drinking by himself in a bar then taking a shot and driving off is the best story to tell trying to paint someone in a good light.

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 06:50 PM

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Mur,

I'm not sure a dude drinking by himself in a bar then taking a shot and driving off is the best story to tell trying to paint someone in a good light.

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Please don't try and turn it around like that. I was just relating a story told to me by one of my friends about how he was a down to Earth guy, and very nice. This is certainly not the thread to be doing it.

yeotaJMU 11-26-2007 06:55 PM

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pretty [censored] up... hope he ends up alright.

espn just said he was unconscious after surgery and still in critical condition if i heard correctly.

ConstantineX 11-26-2007 06:56 PM

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Muresan,

Is that really the way a top NFL athlete should handle things?

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are you joking?

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No. What's wrong with police protection or private body guards? Presumably his personage is very valuable to the Redskins - why would he knowingly put that at risk, as well his reputation, through a firearm defense?

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 07:00 PM

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Muresan,

Is that really the way a top NFL athlete should handle things?

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are you joking?

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No. What's wrong with police protection or private body guards? Presumably his personage is very valuable to the Redskins - why would he knowingly put that at risk, as well his reputation, through a firearm defense?

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Could we keep this out of the thread please? There's a number of firearm debate threads in politics that would answer those very questions for you.

Jurollo 11-26-2007 07:04 PM

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Sportscenter just reported he is unresponsive, unconscious and clinging to life.


hopefully he can pull through this

MuresanForMVP 11-26-2007 07:06 PM

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Sportscenter just reported he is unresponsive, unconscious and clinging to life.


hopefully he can pull through this

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just from the sounds of the espn articles and news reports it seems kind of bleak. this is very sad

ConstantineX 11-26-2007 07:06 PM

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Please don't try and turn it around like that.

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Could we keep this out of the tread please?

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Muresan is Taylor's cousin LDO

Jurollo 11-26-2007 07:06 PM

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Also fwiw I think most of the lack of coverage of this can be attributed to the lack of information there is about this right now

yeotaJMU 11-26-2007 07:09 PM

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Also fwiw I think most of the lack of coverage of this can be attributed to the lack of information there is about this right now

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i think there just isnt much to say... is house was broken into, he was shot, he is in critical condition. as long as they update when he becomes conscious or other milestones i dont think much else is needed

bones 11-26-2007 07:11 PM

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NFL network reports that twice during surgery Taylor flatlined

MikeyPatriot 11-26-2007 07:13 PM

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NFL network reports that twice during surgery Taylor flatlined

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Holy crap.

EHoffman 11-26-2007 07:17 PM

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NFL network reports that twice during surgery Taylor flatlined

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This was also reported on Sirius NFL Radio.

Edge34 11-26-2007 07:21 PM

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Medical miracles can happen. They will have probably put him in an artificial state of hypothermia, which is supposed to prevent (or at least mitigate) brain damage when air isn't getting to the brain for a period of time.

The surgery to close things up and remove the bullet, it seems, was successful. Until he wakes up, and hoping he does, there is really no way to tell how he'll be. I know for a fact that there is never any solid way to diagnose it until then. I wish him the best.

RacersEdge 11-26-2007 07:22 PM

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I actually commend ESPN for not doing the typical over-coverage thing. What can they say - a guy was shot and we'll know more later. I don;t want a doctor on their drawing diagrams of where he thinks the bullet went in or just the random theories on what happened. I hope he makes it, but move on.

DesertCat 11-26-2007 07:27 PM

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The dude keeps a machete by his bedside? Damn...

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It was reported someone broke into his home the week before and left a knife. I've had similar scares and have kept a bat and a sword in my room after those incidents, I don't see anything unusual about that

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Why did he not have a house alarm? It's a trivial cost for a pro athlete. The intruders probably would have left immediately, and even if not, Sean would have had a few more seconds warning.

Assani Fisher 11-26-2007 07:40 PM

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Prayers and best wishes to him and his family.


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wdcbooks 11-26-2007 07:47 PM

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The local DC news is making it sound grave indeed. In the words of George Michael, he is "critically, gravely, seriously injured", "there is a minister at his bedside preparing the family for what may come".

This doesn't sound at all good. I always liked him and was looking forward to watching him in his prime.

tuq 11-26-2007 07:48 PM

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DesertCat,

We don't definitively know if he has an alarm or not, right? It could have been disabled or simply not enough of a deterrent to stop that stuff from going down.

I think bodyguards or police detail to guard your home could be a bit much though paranoia and cost-wise. I mean, who expects something this terrible to happen? Christ I hope he pulls through though.

kidcolin 11-26-2007 07:49 PM

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Someone made this douche a mod?

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At least I am not the only one infuriated by his comment. It's amazing how the internet makes people think they can say whatever they want.

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My post looks different outside of the context of the post to which it responded. Somebody was pointing out Taylor's history with the law and didn't mention that there's some on the field stuff that speaks to the chance that Taylor is a less than swell dude.

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No I think most of us realized that but still found the lack of tact pretty tasteless, made worse by the fact it was Dids, self-appointed moral compass of the internet.

Kneel B4 Zod 11-26-2007 07:56 PM

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NFL network reports that twice during surgery Taylor flatlined

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I think it's pretty sad that his family has no privacy at a time like this.

I usually have no sympathy towards celebrities wrt to their lives being public, but this is a different story imo


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