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nath 11-27-2007 02:40 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
the 44 hand is fine, the open is fine

nice zeon avatar jeff

Pudge714 11-27-2007 02:49 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
I should get djk and goggles to post here they will agree with me.

ASPoker8 11-27-2007 02:53 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
Hand 2, the open is whatever, not great, not bad.

But for you standard NVG morons, the call after shoved on is 100% standard and you suck at life if you dont think so

ASPoker8 11-27-2007 02:54 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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Hand 2, the open is whatever, not great, not bad.

But for you standard NVG morons, the call after shoved on is 100% standard and you suck at life if you dont think so

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BUT WE'RE RACING AT BEST

WHY CALL AN ALLIN WHEN U R A COINFLIP BEST CASE SCENARIO

shipitkthx 11-27-2007 03:04 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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Hand 2, the open is whatever, not great, not bad.

But for you standard NVG morons, the call after shoved on is 100% standard and you suck at life if you dont think so

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BUT WE'RE RACING AT BEST

WHY CALL AN ALLIN WHEN U R A COINFLIP BEST CASE SCENARIO

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Who said that calling the allin was bad??

My point is that raising with intent to call a shove when you are in a coinflip-at-best-scenario is bad from EP with a bad table image, please explain how I am wrong.

ActionJeff 11-27-2007 03:04 AM

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i dont hate on him at all...i'm just saying that how can you tilt off a majority of your stack like that when such a huge cash is right there. Even after the beats he still tilt-shoved 500,000 with 104o. wtf is that? and if he doesn't try to push that guy off his set with 109s no pair/no draw he's still at one million with 24 left. Add to all of this that he's considered one of, if not the top, online tourney player.

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The T4o hand is the best-played one and is totally standard.

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agreed obv

and no one who knows what they are talking about considers him one of or even the top online mtt player, lol. veryone knows big online tourneys are nearly all luck and he has run absurdly, unbelievably well deep in them resulting in several big wins. He's definitely a winning player and an above avg. tourney player but he's no Ozzy 87 or westmenloAA (another player who has run insanely well and far beyond his expectation, although he is one of the very best). Tourneys are just dominated by luck man, not much else to it

salesbeast 11-27-2007 03:20 AM

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i dont hate on him at all...i'm just saying that how can you tilt off a majority of your stack like that when such a huge cash is right there. Even after the beats he still tilt-shoved 500,000 with 104o. wtf is that? and if he doesn't try to push that guy off his set with 109s no pair/no draw he's still at one million with 24 left. Add to all of this that he's considered one of, if not the top, online tourney player.

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The T4o hand is the best-played one and is totally standard.

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agreed obv

and no one who knows what they are talking about considers him one of or even the top online mtt player, lol. veryone knows big online tourneys are nearly all luck and he has run absurdly, unbelievably well deep in them resulting in several big wins. He's definitely a winning player and an above avg. tourney player but he's no Ozzy 87 or westmenloAA (another player who has run insanely well and far beyond his expectation, although he is one of the very best). Tourneys are just dominated by luck man, not much else to it

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Need to disagree Jeff...and trust me I respect you bro as I was next to you in Vancouver during Chan's tourny..but anyway Westmenlo plays fewer tables...yes he has sick results but if he played Chad's volume I don't think he would fair as well. Chad has shown an unconventional style which seems to work. We could say the same about Strassa or aaaaaaaa but the sample size is to small IMO.

futuredoc85 11-27-2007 03:44 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
if you think lilholdem is in a league within 904093094 leagues of menlo you should never talk about poker again

spooky shadows 11-27-2007 03:51 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
stfu already futuredonk85 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

bigbabyjesus 11-27-2007 03:53 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
Hand 2 is the most standard hand of the group. If you ever watch any well known tournament player late in a tournament, they are opening a ridiculous amount of pots. 44 is a monster in this spot for these guys.. then odds commit him.

Otherwise he [censored] up every other hand. Shoving T4o will not be profitable versus a decent player given his incredible tilt image.

futuredoc85 11-27-2007 03:53 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
k [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

todd1007 11-27-2007 07:58 AM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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the 44 hand is fine, the open is fine

nice zeon avatar jeff

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the 44 is poor at best.

Dan87 11-27-2007 01:41 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
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the 44 hand is fine, the open is fine

nice zeon avatar jeff

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the 44 is poor at best.

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agreed i would just fold the 44 and sit back and wait to get to the final table before i play poker

Vitas23 11-27-2007 03:54 PM

Re: LilHoldem Meltdown
 
G0T T!LT? would have owned him at the FT anyway.


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