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Here's a question for the "I did it on my own, so should my kids!" crowd. I hear a lot about how kids "owe" their parents so much, and they have no right to complain because their parents "give" them so much. Does this not apply if you make the kids do it on their own? So they can be unappreciative and disrespectful to you with impunity? Because you're admittedly making them fend for themselves, it only seems natural that you not expect praise and appreciation in return.

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Big Bend is hopelessly lost and I'm sure I would have killed myself if I was his son.

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My mom is really strict, annoying, and all she does is nag everyone in the house about things ranging from making my bed to cleaning my room to watching too much TV. She makes life miserable for my brother (14) and my dad also. She doesn't let me eat in my room, and before I had my own car she wouldn't let me borrow her car unless I had my room perfectly clean, and put at least $5 in gas in her car (shes a nit). Also my parents didn't give me money for anything, so if I wanted to go to a game or movie or whatever I had to pay 100%. But there would be times when I would go see a movie Friday night, work Sat afternoon and then try to borrow the car to go out, mom would say no, you were just out. Wtf? I just got used to not going out and doing anything fun unless there was some sort of punishment involved from my parents. Their favorite saying was, and still is, that I "always get my way."

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I can't really complain about my parents since they let me live here rent free, for the last 3 months.

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O RLY?

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Big Bend is hopelessly lost and I'm sure I would have killed myself if I was his son.

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hahahaha


edit:% chance his kids turn out gay?

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I don't see why you would want to purposely make it harder on your kids. I'll be happy to support my kids through college. You choose to have kids, you shouldn't make them feel bad because you give them things (I'm talking before 18). It builds resentment both ways. Either give it to them, or don't. Simple as that.

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since there have been a lot of OP is a loser thread, and you get the picture.

you're only seeeing htings from one side. yours. they may be dicks, but it's a 2 way street. i'm sure you don't help the cause. you don't even know what your dad does for christ sakes. take some interest.

is it so hard to pick up after yourself when they ask? or even if they don't? or not eat in your room, or keep it clean, cause it's their home, you are living rent free, and maybe they like things in order?

when was the last time you did the dishes or vacuumed without being asked?

what about having an adult like conversation about, what you both can do to make things easier on everyone like

"hey, i know it sucks i'm living here, and i'm trying, what can i do to help out until i get back on my feet? rent? pay for groceries? pay for the utilities?"

christ, get a job at starbucks. good pay, they treat their employees well. benefits at like 30 hours a week. start taking classes at community college.

be proactive, instead of feeling sorry for yourself, and so hateful to your parents. i mean, you're not the first kid to hate their parents in their youth. i mean they may be aholes now, but there's a chance it's for a reason.

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Big Bend, I think you're taking things a bit too far. I don't need mommy and daddy to drive me around, I'm glad you can take care of yourself though!

You sound almost like my dad, maybe you have good intentions but you are a giant douche.

"My way or get out" is your message, so I guess you are perfect and never make mistakes or bad choices. You're selfish and arrogant. Who tells their kids they were born naked and boy they are lucky to have parents who provide them with everything? Seems like you're doing this just to stroke your own ego. Good luck raising a family.

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Big Bend is hopelessly lost and I'm sure I would have killed myself if I was his son.

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big bend,

plz to be adopting vyse

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go back to college.

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I don't see why you would want to purposely make it harder on your kids. I'll be happy to support my kids through college. You choose to have kids, you shouldn't make them feel bad because you give them things (I'm talking before 18). It builds resentment both ways. Either give it to them, or don't. Simple as that.

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I never said parents should purposely make things hard. I'll certainly support my kids thru college. But if they drop out and become hopeless whining losers like the OP, they're on their own.

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Big Bend, I think you're taking things a bit too far. I don't need mommy and daddy to drive me around, I'm glad you can take care of yourself though!

You sound almost like my dad, maybe you have good intentions but you are a giant douche.

"My way or get out" is your message, so I guess you are perfect and never make mistakes or bad choices. You're selfish and arrogant. Who tells their kids they were born naked and boy they are lucky to have parents who provide them with everything? Seems like you're doing this just to stroke your own ego. Good luck raising a family.

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Thanks, like I said, my wife and I are doing a great job raising our kids. Should one of them someday drop out of school and squander all the opportunities we've worked hard to give them, while being a resentful prick like you are... well I'll show them the door and wish em luck on their own.

Good luck OP, you have a lot of growing up to do still.. that'll best be accomplished when you're forced to feed and shelter yourself.

We only ask our kids to get good grades in school, be nice people, and work hard someday to support themselves. Its not much really. Sounds like you suck at all 3. I'd certainly be ashamed of you if you were my kid.

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Amazing how many people are complete [censored], unless this is some sort of level. Aren't you the guy who weighed over 460 pounds despite his massive willpower?

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Uh, no.

I had a very hard time with my dad growing up. So at the age of 19 I moved out of the house and supported myself 100%, paid my own way thru college by working full time and going to night school, got my own jobs (I never needed daddy to drive me around), and never looked back. I'm very proud of what I've accomplished on my own. Any adult that needs mommy & daddy to pay their bills had better do what mommy & daddy want without complaining. OP is a pathetic loser who has blown tremendous opportunities and tries to blame his parents. He needs to grow up and move out NOW, learn to feed himself instead of sucking on the parent's milk. I have no sympathy for whining losers who can't support themselves.

My kids know that they were born naked, and everything they've gotten since then is mine, and if they don't want to do it my way then they can sure as hell leave and support themselves. Builds character. So far the kids are doing great and are quite successful in life and everybody who knows us says my wife and I are great parents. OP's parents shouldn't nag anymore, they should just kick him out and cut him off completely.. once OP quit college, they should have never let him move back home. After OP learns how to walk on his own then he'll appreciate what he had and maybe learn that his parents were right.

BB

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this post makes way too much sense for OOT. ban.

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The more I read 2p2, the more I realize that my theories about why this country has gone to the [censored] are true. So many selfish people.

Now Mike, I don't consider you overly selfish, definitely not anymore than I was at your age. I get it, I really do.

However, there are people in this thread, the drunk driving thread, and many other threads, that epitomize the problems of our society.

Nobody is owed anything. Go earn it. I had my first job at 14 (which, now in 2007, would be considered early) and had a deal set up with my parents that whatever I saved for my 1st car, they would match. I bought a 1982 Mercury Cougar in 1998. I loved that damn thing. Anway, I'm freshly 25, and I feel a total disconnect with the current 18-21 crowd.

Anyway, Mike, like I said, you will really see your parents in a different light when you NEVER hear them bitch about cleaning, curfew, or work.

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The more I read 2p2, the more I realize that my theories about why this country has gone to the [censored] are true. So many selfish people.

Now Mike, I don't consider you overly selfish, definitely not anymore than I was at your age. I get it, I really do.

However, there are people in this thread, the drunk driving thread, and many other threads, that epitomize the problems of our society.

Nobody is owed anything. Go earn it. I had my first job at 14 (which, now in 2007, would be considered early) and had a deal set up with my parents that whatever I saved for my 1st car, they would match. I bought a 1982 Mercury Cougar in 1998. I loved that damn thing. Anway, I'm freshly 25, and I feel a total disconnect with the current 18-21 crowd.

Anyway, Mike, like I said, you will really see your parents in a different light when you NEVER hear them bitch about cleaning, curfew, or work.

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pirateboy wins thread.

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lol, when I saw the last post was by "Your Mom" i was expecting a great gimmick account.

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all she does is nag everyone in the house about things ranging from making my bed to cleaning my room to watching too much TV

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There's a simple solution to the clean your room thing...do you see it. Simple question: Should your parents get to decide how clean their home is?

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Also my parents didn't give me money for anything

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Maybe they are trying to encourage you to work. Why should your parents give you money?

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I'm an adult now, 21 years old

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You are the age of an adult. You are not an adult.

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But he's just so eager to kick me out, over stupid stuff like putting an empty pizza box out on the porch

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Are you suggesting that your parents shouldn't be upset when you leave garbage sitting around their house?

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If I were your parents I'd kick you out of the house so fast your head would spin. You are owed NOTHING! You are a pathetic waste of goo. Sucks to be you, Loser!

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Amazing how many people are complete [censored], unless this is some sort of level. Aren't you the guy who weighed over 460 pounds despite his massive willpower?

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Big Bend != Buried Beds

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How can you not know what your dad does for a living?

Think about it, maybe it has something to do with your problems.

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I don't see why you would want to purposely make it harder on your kids. I'll be happy to support my kids through college. You choose to have kids, you shouldn't make them feel bad because you give them things (I'm talking before 18). It builds resentment both ways. Either give it to them, or don't. Simple as that.

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I never said parents should purposely make things hard. I'll certainly support my kids thru college. But if they drop out and become hopeless whining losers like the OP, they're on their own.

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I think this is a reasonable post, and I'd tend to agree. IMO, op definitely screwed himself by dropping out of college then going busto. At that point his parents must have started thinking "ok, you want to drop out and be a man? The gravy train is over, now get a job you crumb bum." His parents were supporting him, he said he didn't want their help anymore, then came crawling back. I can see why they're acting the way they are

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Uh, no.

I had a very hard time with my dad growing up. So at the age of 19 I moved out of the house and supported myself 100%, paid my own way thru college by working full time and going to night school, got my own jobs (I never needed daddy to drive me around), and never looked back. I'm very proud of what I've accomplished on my own. Any adult that needs mommy & daddy to pay their bills had better do what mommy & daddy want without complaining. OP is a pathetic loser who has blown tremendous opportunities and tries to blame his parents. He needs to grow up and move out NOW, learn to feed himself instead of sucking on the parent's milk. I have no sympathy for whining losers who can't support themselves.

My kids know that they were born naked, and everything they've gotten since then is mine, and if they don't want to do it my way then they can sure as hell leave and support themselves. Builds character. So far the kids are doing great and are quite successful in life and everybody who knows us says my wife and I are great parents. OP's parents shouldn't nag anymore, they should just kick him out and cut him off completely.. once OP quit college, they should have never let him move back home. After OP learns how to walk on his own then he'll appreciate what he had and maybe learn that his parents were right.

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You're an idiot and I pity your children.

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I'm going to give you the same advice others have Grow up, support yourself and move out. My parents supported me through college. I'm very grateful to them for this. When I graduated, I lived with my mom, while working, (my parents divorced while I was in college) for a few months, then moved out on my own, and supported myself from then on. I haven't been given, or borrowed, a dime from my parents after I was on my own. By the time I graduated, I wanted to be self-sufficient. I honestly can't understand why anybody over the age of 21 would want to continue living with and being supported by their parents.

If your current job is only providing you with 5 hours of work per week, you need to find another job, either part time, to supplement your income from the first job, or full time to replace it. No, finding a job isn't always easy. If you're on your own and you want to live like a sob, you can (within limits: trash your place badly enough and the landlord may kick you out). If your parents are willing to support you to finish college, do it. Hell, do it even if you have to work your way through. It will give you a much better chance to find a job that doesn't suck. OTOH, just about any job sucks less than being unemployed. If you don't go to college (or after you do, for that matter), keep looking for better jobs, or to get promoted in the job you have. Hint: You need to do more than the bare minimum to keep from getting fired. If you're dead-ended, look for something better. You don't want to be working at McDonald's when you're 50.

Keep in touch with your parents, even if it's only for Christmas and birthdays. As others have been said, you will probably get along a lot better when you're not living together.

You're an adult now. Start acting like one. Also, your parents don't owe you a damn thing now that you are an adult. Any help they give you now is gravy, so, even if they are a pain in the ass some times, try not to be such an ungrateful whiner.

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In hindsight I'm a huge [censored] for even saying that as if it was relevant, my apologies to buried beds if he reads any of this.