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ianisakson 11-13-2007 01:20 AM

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10000+2500/500=10005, I win

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I leveled you, plus the math I posted is correct, order of operations ftw. math lesson (10000+2500)/500 = 25, 10000+2500/500= 100005

sorry, I suck at humor and I this is what keeps me from comitting suicide.

Claunchy 11-13-2007 01:33 AM

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Wow, that might just be the best istewart post ever.

yad 11-13-2007 01:39 AM

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I cannot understand why people spend so much on rings. Totally stupid and counterproductive for two reasons:

1. You spend a lot of money on something almost completely useless.

2. By doing so, you increase the chances that you will marry a greedy money-hungry bitch.

My rule was: $300 max for her ring. No interest in marrying anyone for whom this was a problem. In the end I married a fantastic woman who thought $300 was absurdly extravagant.

ianisakson 11-13-2007 01:42 AM

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I cannot understand why people spend so much on rings. Totally stupid and counterproductive for two reasons:

1. You spend a lot of money on something almost completely useless.

2. By doing so, you increase the chances that you will marry a greedy money-hungry bitch.

My rule was: $300 max for her ring. No interest in marrying anyone for whom this was a problem. In the end I married a fantastic woman who thought $300 was absurdly extravagant.

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this post belongs in BBV with a Beat tag

offTopic 11-13-2007 02:22 PM

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$13,000 + $3500 / $700 = 23.5

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Big rock or super-high quality?

mntbikr15 11-13-2007 02:27 PM

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one of the many many reasons i love my wife so much and we are a perfect fit...

I wanted some Asian pussy on call 24/7 and she needed a way to evade the INS.

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poty

The Owl 11-13-2007 03:10 PM

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$13,000 + $3500 / $700 = 23.5

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Big rock or super-high quality?

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I guess it depends on your definition of each. It's like 1.7 carats, colorless (D or E), VVS1. You can really tell the difference if you put it next to a more included or less colorless diamond. It catches the light like you wouldn't believe.

offTopic 11-13-2007 03:21 PM

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$13,000 + $3500 / $700 = 23.5

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Big rock or super-high quality?

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I guess it depends on your definition of each. It's like 1.7 carats, colorless (D or E), VVS1. You can really tell the difference if you put it next to a more included or less colorless diamond. It catches the light like you wouldn't believe.

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LOL as far as I'm concerned, that's "both".

ianisakson 11-13-2007 03:53 PM

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$13,000 + $3500 / $700 = 23.5

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Big rock or super-high quality?

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I guess it depends on your definition of each. It's like 1.7 carats, colorless (D or E), VVS1. You can really tell the difference if you put it next to a more included or less colorless diamond. It catches the light like you wouldn't believe.

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um, where do you get a 1.7carat D/E VVS1 for 13000? That sounds outlandish

pokerg1 11-13-2007 03:55 PM

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i spent 75cent. 1 25cent from the cheap gumball ring machine and the expensive gumball machine of 50cent

The Owl 11-13-2007 03:56 PM

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You know, it might be VS1 now that I think about it, don't have the cert with me. I know the color is D or E. I do have a friend in the business, though.

ianisakson 11-13-2007 03:58 PM

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You know, it might be VS1 now that I think about it, don't have the cert with me. I know the color is D or E. I do have a friend in the business, though.

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yeah I'm not a gemologist or anything but as I recall from my engagement ring shopping I went to 10 or so different places and NEVER saw anything 1.7 carats with D or E color and in the VSI or VVSI range under 20,000. those were loose diamonds too, no setting.

cantsitstillbr 11-13-2007 04:05 PM

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5000+1200/175= 35

The Owl 11-13-2007 04:05 PM

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Now I'm curious too, I'll look for the cert when I get home. I'm not really far off, though, of that I'm sure. I'll post when I find it.

If you were shopping retail or these were marked prices that would have a lot to do with it, too. I paid exactly what my friend got it for wholesale, no markup.

SneakyFerret 11-13-2007 04:40 PM

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1100 + 200 / 500 = 2.6

Tungsten bitches

SossMan 11-13-2007 04:42 PM

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cracker jack box / air = undefined

mattak 11-13-2007 04:51 PM

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I bought her ring in Aruba for 10K. I got a free gold band in the deal.

So 10,000/0.

It was appraised way higher (like 2.5x) back here, but I have come to realize that higher appraisals are just a way of ripping people off so that they will have to pay higher insurance premiums.

The Owl 11-13-2007 04:53 PM

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I have come to realize that higher appraisals are just a way of ripping people off so that they will have to pay higher insurance premiums.

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It's also a way of making sure you can replace the ring if it gets stolen in five years and diamond prices have gone up.

mattak 11-13-2007 04:56 PM

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I have come to realize that higher appraisals are just a way of ripping people off so that they will have to pay higher insurance premiums.

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It's also a way of making sure you can replace the ring if it gets stolen in five years and diamond prices have gone up.

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I have this unspoken notion of
1)losing ring,
2)claiming insurance money,
3)going to aruba and buying same ring,
4)pocketing difference in cash.

but probably get nailed again by higher premiums or some such.

cantsitstillbr 11-13-2007 05:07 PM

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1100 + 200 / 500 = 2.6

Tungsten bitches

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you paid 500 for a tungsten band???????

samjjones 11-13-2007 07:15 PM

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I think my ring cost $47. They really effed my wife with the cost of engraving.

The Owl 11-13-2007 11:30 PM

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Now I'm curious too, I'll look for the cert when I get home. I'm not really far off, though, of that I'm sure. I'll post when I find it.

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OK, I was slightly off. 1.71 carats, E, VS2.

Milo 11-14-2007 01:31 AM

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We got married the summer before my wife began law school. A ring seemed like a foolish expenditure when could surviving on ramen noodles and macaroni and cheese. 20 years later, she still has no ring.

nickg1532 11-14-2007 01:59 AM

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16x

CalledDownLight 11-14-2007 02:09 AM

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10000+2500/500=10005, I win

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I leveled you, plus the math I posted is correct, order of operations ftw. math lesson (10000+2500)/500 = 25, 10000+2500/500= 100005

sorry, I suck at humor and I this is what keeps me from comitting suicide.

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jaydub 11-14-2007 02:56 AM

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$13,000 + $3500 / $700 = 23.5

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Big rock or super-high quality?

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I guess it depends on your definition of each. It's like 1.7 carats, colorless (D or E), VVS1. You can really tell the difference if you put it next to a more included or less colorless diamond. It catches the light like you wouldn't believe.

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um, where do you get a 1.7carat D/E VVS1 for 13000? That sounds outlandish

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Not if you realize the cut is subpar (or the papers are faked).

From the quoted light catching comment, it is clear that the poster does not understand what he is talking about. Cut is what matters for that effect, inclusions mean dick there.


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OK, I was slightly off. 1.71 carats, E, VS2.



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Fake papers and [censored] cut FTW and me for the poor reading comprehension.

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The Owl 11-14-2007 10:19 AM

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Since you seem to be implying that the stats I quoted are impossible or the diamond's papers are faked, I took a look on Blue Nile and found this nearly identical diamond for a nearly identical price. Many others in the same ballpark in terms of the 4 c's and price. I think you probably do get more for your money from the princess cut because it's less complicated, etc. Also, I never claimed to be a diamond expert like you.

dchz 11-14-2007 10:48 AM

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spending 5 figs on rings is such a puke

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no depreciation here!
Que bond, Diamonds are forever!

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diamonds are not forever, the forward decomposition reaction of diamonds are spontaneous

jaydub 11-14-2007 10:58 AM

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Since you seem to be implying that the stats I quoted are impossible or the diamond's papers are faked, I took a look on Blue Nile and found this nearly identical diamond for a nearly identical price. Many others in the same ballpark in terms of the 4 c's and price. I think you probably do get more for your money from the princess cut because it's less complicated, etc. Also, I never claimed to be a diamond expert like you.

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Owl,

I was replying to your first post, hence the edit and the mocking of my own reading comprehension. Plug the clarity of VVS1 and color of D/E into their search and see what you get.

I'm no diamond expert...

Glad you and your wife enjoy the ring.

J

NapoleonDolemite 11-14-2007 12:15 PM

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I cannot understand why people spend so much on rings. Totally stupid and counterproductive for two reasons:

1. You spend a lot of money on something almost completely useless.

2. By doing so, you increase the chances that you will marry a greedy money-hungry bitch.

My rule was: $300 max for her ring. No interest in marrying anyone for whom this was a problem. In the end I married a fantastic woman who thought $300 was absurdly extravagant.

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I totally agree with you and so does my wife.

NajdorfDefense 11-14-2007 07:58 PM

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I cannot understand why people spend so much on rings. Totally stupid...
1. You spend a lot of money on something almost completely useless.

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1) You are stupid to not understand that many many many men like making their future wives very happy. This is not news. The highlight of a lot of people's lives is the look on their fiancee's face during the proposal, pre or post-kids.

2) Diamonds are more or less forever, and tend to hold their intrinsic value + inflation [not incl any ridic retail markup] and can be passed down from generation to generation for hundreds of years. I'm gonna inherit my mother's, grandmother's and great-grandmother's someday, eff all if I know what to do with them, but 2 of them are remarkable works of art/jewelry with craftsmanship and detail that alone would cost $20k or more today, not incl jewels.

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you increase the chances that you will marry a greedy money-hungry bitch.

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So, you date someone for a 2 years, and only when you pull the wedding ring out for a proposal do you suddenly notice:
a) she's greedy, and
b) money-hungry, and
c) a bitch?

Most of us notice that after 1 date - 3mos of dating. I'm gonna guess that you are special.

By-Tor 11-14-2007 08:09 PM

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I cannot understand why people spend so much on rings. Totally stupid...
1. You spend a lot of money on something almost completely useless.

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1) You are stupid to not understand that many many many men like making their future wives very happy. This is not news. The highlight of a lot of people's lives is the look on their fiancee's face during the proposal, pre or post-kids.

2) Diamonds are more or less forever, and tend to hold their intrinsic value + inflation [not incl any ridic retail markup] and can be passed down from generation to generation for hundreds of years. I'm gonna inherit my mother's, grandmother's and great-grandmother's someday, eff all if I know what to do with them, but 2 of them are remarkable works of art/jewelry with craftsmanship and detail that alone would cost $20k or more today, not incl jewels.

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you increase the chances that you will marry a greedy money-hungry bitch.

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So, you date someone for a 2 years, and only when you pull the wedding ring out for a proposal do you suddenly notice:
a) she's greedy, and
b) money-hungry, and
c) a bitch?

Most of us notice that after 1 date - 3mos of dating. I'm gonna guess that you are special.

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....by women.

VoraciousReader 11-14-2007 08:37 PM

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It's not his fault that he buys into the hype, misinformation and outright brainwashing of the diamond industry in this country.

Diamonds are a religion in this country. Ruling out a woman as materialistic because she wants one is unfair. Yes, you're going to avoid some money-grubbing golddiggers, but mostly you're going to eliminate perfectly nice women that just haven't ever questioned their expectations, because they are so deeply programmed.

Frankly, most men are the same. In fact, I know several husbands who were MUCH more concerned about the ring than their brides were. Speaking as a woman, try telling the man in your life that what you'd REALLY PREFER for your engagement ring to be a gorgeous blue topaz or green quartz (which means a huge stone set in white gold will run you about 200 dollars). Most guys protest and say that you SHOULD have a diamond, you DESERVE a diamond and they certainly don't want anyone to think that they CAN'T BUY you a diamond.

I think it's absurd that we essentially tell people in this country: "Fantastic, you're a lovely young couple going out to build a life together that will (we hope) include home ownership, children, grandchildren, and a comfy retirement...and the Very First Thing you should do is go thousands of dollars in debt for a not-very-rare gemstone. Happy Engagement!" But we do, and criticizing women as money-grubbing because they expect it is not fair.

By-Tor 11-14-2007 08:42 PM

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Well said and this is especially a good point...

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SoloAJ 11-14-2007 09:02 PM

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It's not his fault that he buys into the hype, misinformation and outright brainwashing of the diamond industry in this country.

Diamonds are a religion in this country. Ruling out a woman as materialistic because she wants one is unfair. Yes, you're going to avoid some money-grubbing golddiggers, but mostly you're going to eliminate perfectly nice women that just haven't ever questioned their expectations, because they are so deeply programmed.

Frankly, most men are the same. In fact, I know several husbands who were MUCH more concerned about the ring than their brides were. Speaking as a woman, try telling the man in your life that what you'd REALLY PREFER for your engagement ring to be a gorgeous blue topaz or green quartz (which means a huge stone set in white gold will run you about 200 dollars). Most guys protest and say that you SHOULD have a diamond, you DESERVE a diamond and they certainly don't want anyone to think that they CAN'T BUY you a diamond.

I think it's absurd that we essentially tell people in this country: "Fantastic, you're a lovely young couple going out to build a life together that will (we hope) include home ownership, children, grandchildren, and a comfy retirement...and the Very First Thing you should do is go thousands of dollars in debt for a not-very-rare gemstone. Happy Engagement!" But we do, and criticizing women as money-grubbing because they expect it is not fair.


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That said, the whole "you might just be avoiding a woman who is programmed and hasn't questioned things yet" is something I think I'd prefer avoid (though it isn't some sort of deal breaker....I just mean given the preference).

CallMeIshmael 11-14-2007 09:59 PM

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By-Tor,

settle a (serious) debate that came up w/ a few people today: did you buy your wife?

XXXNoahXXX 11-14-2007 10:02 PM

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By-Tor,

settle a (serious) debate that came up w/ a few people today: did you lease your wife for two years

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FYP

By-Tor 11-14-2007 10:19 PM

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By-Tor,

settle a (serious) debate that came up w/ a few people today: did you buy your wife?

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Nope.

I've mentioned before, and don't mind mentioning again, she is a reporter and I have an interest in photo-journalism and have free-lanced from time to time in the past. We met like normal people meet.

At the time, she was here on a work visa and we have since transferred that paperwork to the normal green card processing for married people.

She received her card earlier this month actually...faster then anyone else she knows that has gone through the process (mainly co-workers).

The main reason we where processed so quickly is that when you don't have to lie, as we didn't, processing goes very smoothly.

Go figure.

RitaNg123 11-15-2007 03:36 AM

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I'm not yet married, just engaged. My engagement ring cost $13 000, and I think we will each spend around $1000 or so on the wedding bands. So however the math equation works out for that, lol.

As for rings and whether spending a lot is necessary or not... I think couples generally have a pretty good idea of what the other wants/expects. I really wanted a carat on a platinum, and so my boyfriend really made efforts to get me something I wanted. I would rather wait awhile longer and get something I will cherish for years, over something that I will be disappointed in. Maybe this sounds horrible, or materialistic, but like I said, I think people have certain expectations of each other, and as long as this doesn't put a strain on those in the relationship, I don't think it's fair for others to judge.

As mentioned in a previous post, some people might look at $300 as a ridiculous and unnecessary cost, whereas some might consider $20 000 to be a small chunk of change. It's all relative.


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