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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He seems like an intelligent kid. [/ QUOTE ] no, he's just another moron who thinks he has the solution to the world's problems. the difference is most morons aren't going to kill a bunch of people for a little attention. [/ QUOTE ] who are you to say his solution isnt the correct one? [/ QUOTE ] That's right. If just everyone in this thread each killed 5 people, and then those 5 people each killed 5 more, and so on, overpopulation would be SOLV---...oh wait. Yeah, never mind. |
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This was the first finnish school shooting ever right? Its not hard to figure out where he got some of his inspiration [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not the first case of Finnish student violence. Myyrmanni bombing |
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right, why would they call me a monster though when i've made it clear i don't condone his actions in the least? the world is [censored] up man there's no doubt about that. [/ QUOTE ] Idiot, actually. Well laid plans don't clear you of mental deficiency. Murdering somebody because you're angsty is generally considered psychotic behavior. Now to say that somebody was simply "crazy", rather than look into what may have drove them to madness, is sadly the first reaction, and the wrong one. edit: i'm not calling you an idiot, btw. |
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[ QUOTE ] This was the first finnish school shooting ever right? Its not hard to figure out where he got some of his inspiration [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not the first case of Finnish student violence. Myyrmanni bombing [/ QUOTE ] that probably wasn't intended to harm anyone. read the wiki |
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[ QUOTE ] In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Movies and Shows: The Matrix, A View To A Kill, Falling Down, Natural Born Killers, Reservoir Dogs, Last Man Standing, Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Butcher MD (aka Zombie Holocaust), Saw 1-3, Lord Of War, The Deer Hunter, True Romance, The Untouchables, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, Idiocracy, They Live, Apocalypse Now, End Of Days, The Shining, The Dead Zone, Dr. Strangelove, Air Force One, House MD (TV), Monty Python, TV Documentaries Relating To History [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Beat me to it. A murderer and plagiarist to boot. |
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My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these |
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wow, if this happened in the states half the posters in this thread would be banned
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I always find it sad how much violence is created by someone's dance recital getting missed. This kid clearly never recovered from mommy missing his.
This kid's MySpace profile read like a future serial killer's resume. Anyone who likes that much bad music is going to snap eventually. Natural law will tell you that. Like Dennis Miller once said, you can't save everyone, just try not to be living close to them when they go off. |
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"This kid's MySpace profile read like a future serial killer's resume."
I hate comments like this. 1000s of over dramatic kids have stupid fatalistic myspaces, youtubes and whatever. Most of my writing in the 6th grade was about brutal dismemberments and murders, same for basically half the dudes in my class and 3 of of the girls. It's something kids do, a lot of kids, most of whom turn out to be pretty damn normal. |
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"This kid's MySpace profile read like a future serial killer's resume." I hate comments like this. 1000s of over dramatic kids have stupid fatalistic myspaces, youtubes and whatever. Most of my writing in the 6th grade was about brutal dismemberments and murders, same for basically half the dudes in my class and 3 of of the girls. It's something kids do, a lot of kids, most of whom turn out to be pretty damn normal. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, I used to play dungeons and dragons, make pipe bombs, and listen to heavy metal (as did all my friends). Im sure if I snapped and went on a killing spree, it would have been "obvious" to everyone this was bound to happen given my hobbies. |
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Terhi Vayrynen, 17, a student at the school told The Associated Press that her brother Henri Vayrynen, 13, and his classmates had witnessed the shooting of the principal outside the school through the classroom window. She said the gunman then came into Henri Vayrynen's class shouting: "Revolution! Smash everything!" When no one did anything, he shot the TV and the windows of the class room but did not fire at the students. The he ran out and down the corridor, Terhi Vayrynen said. [/ QUOTE ] This is interesting, I think I might have started smashing stuff. |
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I blame George Bush. Also, video games, Kubrick, Tarantino, and Monty Python. [/ QUOTE ] You forgot metal music. |
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wow, if this happened in the states half the posters in this thread would be banned wtf at making jokes, [/ QUOTE ] |
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wow, if this happened in the states half the posters in this thread would be banned wtf at making jokes, [/ QUOTE ] if true that is almost certainly wrong and stupid |
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Alobar, Your rage is already well-documented. [/ QUOTE ] lol, I hate poker players way more than murderers and terrorists! |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This was the first finnish school shooting ever right? Its not hard to figure out where he got some of his inspiration [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not the first case of Finnish student violence. Myyrmanni bombing [/ QUOTE ] that probably wasn't intended to harm anyone. read the wiki [/ QUOTE ] Don't know if I'm convinced--if he was going to set it off in the middle of nowhere why take it to a crowded place? |
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Finnish Him!!!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This was the first finnish school shooting ever right? Its not hard to figure out where he got some of his inspiration [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not the first case of Finnish student violence. Myyrmanni bombing [/ QUOTE ] that probably wasn't intended to harm anyone. read the wiki [/ QUOTE ] Don't know if I'm convinced--if he was going to set it off in the middle of nowhere why take it to a crowded place? [/ QUOTE ] nobody can really know but he'd been doing that before as well |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This was the first finnish school shooting ever right? Its not hard to figure out where he got some of his inspiration [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not the first case of Finnish student violence. Myyrmanni bombing [/ QUOTE ] that probably wasn't intended to harm anyone. read the wiki [/ QUOTE ] Don't know if I'm convinced--if he was going to set it off in the middle of nowhere why take it to a crowded place? [/ QUOTE ] And why fill it with shotgun pellets?? Exploding prematurely doesn't rule out intent kill/maim people. |
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lol at this from an article in a Norwegian newspaper: "[he] shot himself in the head. The police thinks he tried to kill himself."
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lol at this from an article in a Norwegian newspaper: "[he] shot himself in the head. The police thinks he tried to kill himself." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty assumptive. For all we know he was playing a game of solo Russian Roulette and lost. |
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Finnish Him!!! [/ QUOTE ] Your best post IMO. |
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jesus that guy is a nuthob
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He seems like an intelligent kid. [/ QUOTE ] no, he's just another moron who thinks he has the solution to the world's problems. the difference is most morons aren't going to kill a bunch of people for a little attention. [/ QUOTE ] who are you to say his solution isnt the correct one? [/ QUOTE ] i'm stinkypete |
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[ QUOTE ] Finnish Him!!! [/ QUOTE ] Your best post IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Backhanded compliment? |
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[ QUOTE ] My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these [/ QUOTE ] They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these [/ QUOTE ] They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure. [/ QUOTE ] And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right? And its a moral failure according to your set of morals, but there is no absolute when it comes to that, so again, whos right? |
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[ QUOTE ] lol at this from an article in a Norwegian newspaper: "[he] shot himself in the head. The police thinks he tried to kill himself." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty assumptive. For all we know he was playing a game of solo Russian Roulette and lost. [/ QUOTE ] lol assumptive. Also he does like the Deer Hunter. Me too for that matter [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] |
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Finnish Him!!! [/ QUOTE ] This was the first thing I thought when I saw this on the news. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these [/ QUOTE ] They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure. [/ QUOTE ] And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right? And its a moral failure according to your set of morals, but there is no absolute when it comes to that, so again, whos right? [/ QUOTE ] This reminds me of nothing more than an Onion point-counterpoint. Helpless schoolgirl: "Shooting me is wrong! Please don't shoot me!" v. Crazy Finn: "The higher evolution of the human race demands that I shoot you." I guess they just need to agree to disagree. |
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[ QUOTE ] They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure. [/ QUOTE ] And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right? And its a moral failure according to your set of morals, but there is no absolute when it comes to that, so again, whos right? [/ QUOTE ] I think there's definitely room for a considerable degree of relativism, but I'm very skeptical of any moral system that considers 9/11 an acceptable means to an end. Nor do I think that you believe this, except as an intellectual exercise. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these [/ QUOTE ] They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure. [/ QUOTE ] And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right? And its a moral failure according to your set of morals, but there is no absolute when it comes to that, so again, whos right? [/ QUOTE ] This reminds me of nothing more than an Onion point-counterpoint. Helpless schoolgirl: "Shooting me is wrong! Please don't shoot me!" v. Crazy Finn: "The higher evolution of the human race demands that I shoot you." I guess they just need to agree to disagree. [/ QUOTE ] way to dodge the excellent point by dismissing it as similar to some parody. |
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way to dodge the excellent point by dismissing it as similar to some parody. [/ QUOTE ] An excellent point? To reiterate, the point is, "Who are we to say that shooting up a school is wrong?" The answer is obviously that we are adults of normal intelligence with the capacity to make moral judgments. EDIT: What I said wasn't even parody. Schoolgirl says, "Please don't kill me." Crazy (or perhaps "differently sane") Finn says, "No I'm going to kill you." OOT says, "Man, that was evil." Alobar says, "No guys, don't rush to judgment here. They both make valid points." |
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It was just announced that the shooter is dead. Damn what a coward. I don't think this is a case of mental insanity. I think there are just some very very evil people.
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I think the guy would be considered schizoid personality, by the psychiatric community. I read the same about the VT guy. These dudes arent fully psychotic, but the way they connect violence with half baked ideals is.
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Then again, it's rarely even half baked, its overcooked.
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[ QUOTE ] lol at this from an article in a Norwegian newspaper: "[he] shot himself in the head. The police thinks he tried to kill himself." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty assumptive. For all we know he was playing a game of solo Russian Roulette and lost. [/ QUOTE ] Actually he was playing Polish Roulette not Russian Roulette. Russian Roulette is played with a revolver, he had an automatic pistol. |
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