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Exsubmariner 11-04-2007 12:57 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
Hey Man,
I think the only thing that has been proven in this thread is that a MOAB could have done the same damage. I'm not looking to prove a damn thing. I just wanted to examine the evidence to see if it were a real possibility. It certainly is a lot of fun to speculate about.

BTW, you are completely out of line.

Exsubmariner 11-04-2007 12:58 AM

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You guys are REALLY speculating in this thread.

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In case you missed it, that's kind of the point.

Go level somewhere else.

Exsubmariner 11-04-2007 01:00 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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My personal opinion is that this was an all Israeli or all American operation. There is no need for the two countries to conduct such a limited mission together, unneccesarily complicating the sortie (if both have the necessary capabilities).

I think its most likely to be Israel, with the leaks designed to present a clear picture - that Israel has the US's full support for limited operations against such sites (unconventional/nuclear weapons).

I dont think its possible for Israel to have acted unilaterally, "trying to drag the US in" - no way Israel performs this mission (other than at a time of out and out war) without US permission.

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I'm leaning in the direction of all Isreali as well. Given the history, though, they feel it is always better to ask forgiveness than permission.

Exsubmariner 11-04-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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What would be the benefits of using a nuke over MOAB for the US?

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The only reason I can see is to send a message. But, it's some message and with a big backfire risk. I am pretty much in agreement with everything else you said, though.

Taso 11-04-2007 01:45 AM

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You guys are REALLY speculating in this thread.

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In case you missed it, that's kind of the point.

Go level somewhere else.

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Alright, enough with this talk of leveling. It was clear NY sarcasm, it was a post on the first page, and I didn't think anyone would be confused by it.

What I meant by REALLY speculating, was that there is no reason to believe that little black spot on the map is a crater, either from a bomb or otherwise, and you guys are really just pulling stuff straight out of your asses. I was trying to be polite about it.

mrick 11-04-2007 04:59 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
Of all the people posting here, I didn't expect you, an ex-submariner, to put up this crap.

If OTOH you're leveling us, congratulations.

Goater 11-04-2007 07:54 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
well, im also pretty sure that it was conventional weapons. too much risk for no seemingly operational benefit to use tactical nukes.

and Israel dosnt need to ask permission to eradicate a threat close to its borders - i meant more that this would have been discussed between the two countries and cleared beforehand.

kyzerjose 11-06-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
This is old news. It happened on Sept 6th and it's widely agreed upon, that the Israelis flew the mission using conventional weapons.
As screwy as GW may be, he's not going to authorize the use of nuclear weapons against Syria.

whiskeytown 11-06-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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This is old news. It happened on Sept 6th and it's widely agreed upon, that the Israelis flew the mission using conventional weapons.
As screwy as GW may be, he's not going to authorize the use of nuclear weapons against Syria.

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and evidently everyone missed the story about how Syria cleaned up afterwards - they leveled/dragged off all debris to prevent analysis - that's why it looks wiped clean.

Nuclear warhead in syria - [censored] almighty - like discussing if the earth is flat.

RB

John Kilduff 11-06-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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This is old news. It happened on Sept 6th and it's widely agreed upon, that the Israelis flew the mission using conventional weapons.
As screwy as GW may be, he's not going to authorize the use of nuclear weapons against Syria.

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and evidently everyone missed the story about how Syria cleaned up afterwards - they leveled/dragged off all debris to prevent analysis - that's why it looks wiped clean.

Nuclear warhead in syria - [censored] almighty - like discussing if the earth is flat.

RB

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Isn't it more likely that Syria quickly cleaned up the debris in order to conceal the fact that the site did indeed host a nuclear development facility of some sort? That would seem more likely to me than a nuke being used where a conventional weapon would easily suffice.

kyzerjose 11-06-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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This is old news. It happened on Sept 6th and it's widely agreed upon, that the Israelis flew the mission using conventional weapons.
As screwy as GW may be, he's not going to authorize the use of nuclear weapons against Syria.

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and evidently everyone missed the story about how Syria cleaned up afterwards - they leveled/dragged off all debris to prevent analysis - that's why it looks wiped clean.

Nuclear warhead in syria - [censored] almighty - like discussing if the earth is flat.

RB

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Isn't it more likely that Syria quickly cleaned up the debris in order to conceal the fact that the site did indeed host a nuclear development facility of some sort? That would seem more likely to me than a nuke being used where a conventional weapon would easily suffice.

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Syria says no & Israel says yes. Interesting, this facility sure looked like it was under construction for a looooooong time before anyone acted. North Korea allegedly had their nasty little fingers in the pie.

Maybe GW dialed up EO and asked him for a favor.

Exsubmariner 11-07-2007 03:39 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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and evidently everyone missed the story about how Syria cleaned up afterwards - they leveled/dragged off all debris to prevent analysis - that's why it looks wiped clean.



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No, I didn't miss that. I give it one chance in four of being accurate.

Exsubmariner 11-07-2007 03:41 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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Of all the people posting here, I didn't expect you, an ex-submariner, to put up this crap.

If OTOH you're leveling us, congratulations.

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Listen, what am I going to about the crap? Realistically.

Exsubmariner 11-07-2007 03:44 AM

Re: Did the US Nuke Syria?
 
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What I meant by REALLY speculating, was that there is no reason to believe that little black spot on the map is a crater, either from a bomb or otherwise, and you guys are really just pulling stuff straight out of your asses. I was trying to be polite about it.


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What makes you say this?


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