Re: What can I do?
 

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honestly, fgators plays poker the way tuff_fish does. every time a flush gets there, his set can't be good. every time an overcard hits, his pair is no good. with tony this is excusable since he's just having a good time playing some cards - with someone who's played hundreds of thousands of hands (maybe millions now) as a 'pro' it's not.

his w%wsf is a disgrace, never getting to showdown without a winner is a BAD THING, but he can't understand it because he doesn't understand poker at all - HOW DO YOU PLAY A GAME THIS LONG AND ARE SO BAD AT IT IT TILTS ME SO DAMN MUCH

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what's his w$wsf%?

Re: What can I do?
 

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i would stake fgators against any of the morons in this thread til infinity

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You are also the idiot who prop bet fgators that no one would tell him to stop posting?

Re: What can I do?
 

fgators...
you continue to boggle my mind.

you want us to give u praise?
are you [censored] kidding me?

praise for what?
your horrid posts?
your endless whining... what? we don't take bad beats in 200bb pots? you run worse than everyone else playing as many hands as you?

do us all a favour, suck it up, your not busto, you obv have some BR mangement, or a good paying job that fuels your poker aspirations, either way, if you are a winning player, or as you put it, one of the best players at 200NL, then this shouldn't matter.

So, if it's praise you want...
I dunno...
OOT?

you won't find praise here.

Unless you stack someone for 10k++

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I never play on stars, but am now clearing that wcoop bonus. Sat down, noticed FGators26 on my right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I see why he doesn't win much:

POKERSTARS GAME #12194569184: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/09/21 - 21:55:08 (ET)
Table 'Dolios' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: carisssma ($120.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Storm Cloud9 ($168.70 in chips)
Seat 3: johnny79 ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($259.70 in chips)
Seat 5: HomeRow ($238.85 in chips)
Seat 6: UndrAAge ($322.60 in chips)
UndrAAge: posts small blind $1
carisssma: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HomeRow [2s 7s]
Storm Cloud9: folds
johnny79: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
HomeRow: folds
UndrAAge: folds
carisssma: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [As 5s 3d]
carisssma: checks
FGators26: checks
*** TURN *** [As 5s 3d] [Ts]
carisssma: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 5s 3d Ts] [Jh]
carisssma: checks
FGators26: bets $12
carisssma: calls $12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [9d Ad] (a pair of Aces)
carisssma: mucks hand
FGators26 collected $39 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $41 | Rake $2
Board [As 5s 3d Ts Jh]
Seat 1: carisssma (big blind) mucked [9s Tc]
Seat 2: Storm Cloud9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: johnny79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FGators26 showed [9d Ad] and won ($39) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: HomeRow (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: UndrAAge (small blind) folded before Flop

Bet ur top pair ffs.

He was 12-tabling and running at 33/27 on my table. Hot run or is he a lagtard now?

Re: What can I do?
 

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dude, if brian townsend coached you, you wouldn't listen to him, either.

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FYP

Re: What can I do?
 

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take responsibility for your results

you're welcome

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It's that simple.

Re: What can I do?
 

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i would stake fgators against any of the morons in this thread til infinity

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all right, let's me and you define infinity

Re: What can I do?
 

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and the best part is he's probably the exact same poker player.

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I mean.. he's not THAT bad anymore. Last I played with him, he'd graduated from always giving up on the flop when he wasn't committed to always giving up on the turn when not committed.

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Funny that you base a poker player's skill of their pokertracker database.

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Hilarious.

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I guarantee if I took your "coaching" you would do absolutely ZERO to affect my winrate.

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QFT

Re: What can I do?
 

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i would stake fgators against any of the morons in this thread til infinity

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all right, let's me and you define infinity

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and here I thought you gave up on caring the last time you went through this with FGators... which, incidentally, is about 40 "what am I doing wrong?" posts ago from him...


<font color="red">In order to get BBV's praise - MAKE THE VIDEO YOU PROMISED US</font>

Re: What can I do?
 

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you have to be a gimmick who somehow played 138k hands of breakeven 1-2 and didnt kill himself at this point

[/ QUOTE ]if every gimmick account were so dedicated this place would be much better

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fgators just got banned for a day for some OOT thread fyi

[/ QUOTE ]lol

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I never play on stars, but am now clearing that wcoop bonus. Sat down, noticed FGators26 on my right I see why he doesn't win much:

[/ QUOTE ]wtf he got max value there!? ducy?

clayton - can you post fgator's pokerEV graph?

fgators - please make a video or post your stats/pokerev results; kthx bai

Re: What can I do?
 

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take responsibility for your results

you're welcome

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It's that simple.

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Re: What can I do?
 

Guys seriously give the guy some freaking slack. So he's not as good or skilled as everyone else, he's trying. Not everyone starts their poker careers hot and keeps on running like that.

Some of you people seriously are [censored] and need to think in retrospect of how your own poker careers started.

I know I come on here and talk [censored] from time to time and on IRC too, but almost everyone knows I'm joking. But I look here and I find it hard to see that some of the things you guys are saying to fgators is a joke.

- Bad Beat Maker

Re: What can I do?
 

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So he's not as good or skilled as everyone else, he's trying.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe he is as good and skilled, but just isn't as lucky? Have you considered that?

Re: What can I do?
 

Yes that too, but I'm just saying some of these people need to take the [censurred] out of their asses and stop being pricks.

Re: What can I do?
 

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i would stake fgators against any of the morons in this thread til infinity

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you just reply w/ site and stakes and ill be there

Re: What can I do?
 

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Guys seriously give the guy some freaking slack. So he's not as good or skilled as everyone else, he's trying. Not everyone starts their poker careers hot and keeps on running like that.

Some of you people seriously are [censored] and need to think in retrospect of how your own poker careers started.

I know I come on here and talk [censored] from time to time and on IRC too, but almost everyone knows I'm joking. But I look here and I find it hard to see that some of the things you guys are saying to fgators is a joke.

- Bad Beat Maker

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hes been playing for [censored] ever

Re: What can I do?
 

So what, hes trying. Look up the story of Ben Carson for reference. He was going into a dead-end in life; then boom! It all turned around for him.

Re: What can I do?
 

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So what, hes trying. Look up the story of Ben Carson for reference. He was going into a dead-end in life; then boom! It all turned around for him.

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What about Carson Daily? He was on a dead-end TV show then boom! nothing happened!

Re: What can I do?
 

Ben Carson not carson daily, ur following my posts and i will hurt u!!!!!! :X

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dude, if brian townsend coached you, you wouldn't listen to him, either.

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FYP

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uhm...

A+?

Re: What can I do?
 

I'm going to coach him, thats it. Enough of this. GATORS MSG ME BACK ON AIM. We're gonna do this right bro. MICROSTAKES COACHING FOR THE FREAKING WIN!

Re: What can I do?
 

Post you all in luck graph and stats and if you run worse than me i'll ship you my roll.

www.pokerevsoftware.com

This is no joke.

Re: What can I do?
 

How about you show yours?

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if fgators used all the energy he spends in whining to improve his game he could be a decent player.

Re: What can I do?
 

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i would stake fgators against any of the morons in this thread til infinity

[/ QUOTE ]you just reply w/ site and stakes and ill be there

[/ QUOTE ]Make a video of this if it happens (though it won't).

Re: What can I do?
 

All I wanted was an FGators video.


ONE TIME DEALER!!!!!1131!!@ [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: What can I do?
 

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what's his w$wsf%?

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Believe I saw it at 39 somewhere.

That is inexcusable. A good player's at 1/2 should prob be around 45. This means there are 6 percent of hands that he's not winning that he could/should be.

Re: What can I do?
 

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take responsibility for your results

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memorize all of PI

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ya do that

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memorize all of PI

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ya do that

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and don't come back till you're done

Re: What can I do?
 

Stop bitching about results and we'll all be fine.

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memorize all of PI

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ya do that

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and don't come back

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what's his w$wsf%?

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Believe I saw it at 39 somewhere.

That is inexcusable. A good player's at 1/2 should prob be around 45. This means there are 6 percent of hands that he's not winning that he could/should be.

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srsly? im at like 39% and 6ptbb over an extremely large sample at 1-2 which pots am i missing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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srsly? im at like 39% and 6ptbb over an extremely large sample at 1-2 which pots am i missing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]The pots at pokerstars.

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what's his w$wsf%?

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Believe I saw it at 39 somewhere.

That is inexcusable. A good player's at 1/2 should prob be around 45. This means there are 6 percent of hands that he's not winning that he could/should be.

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srsly? im at like 39% and 6ptbb over an extremely large sample at 1-2 which pots am i missing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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really? i guess you must play a lot of multiway pots you give up on?

maybe i've got this all backwards - might be focused too much on this stat.

Re: What can I do?
 

If people are stations and pay you off when you have hands I think it's OK for won $ saw flop to be around 40%. If people get tighter and don't go to showdown as much as they do in tougher games then I think it becomes more important.

But maybe that's just my excuse for not winning my share of pots.

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what's his w$wsf%?

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Believe I saw it at 39 somewhere.

That is inexcusable. A good player's at 1/2 should prob be around 45. This means there are 6 percent of hands that he's not winning that he could/should be.

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srsly? im at like 39% and 6ptbb over an extremely large sample at 1-2 which pots am i missing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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really? i guess you must play a lot of multiway pots you give up on?

maybe i've got this all backwards - might be focused too much on this stat.

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im playing in much looser games than stars 1-2, ppl dont fold and lots of pots are multiway. im gonna check my stars db now im curious.

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Yah mine is like 41% over a decent sample at Party 1/2. I assume this is usual though because of the reasons Smellmuth just gave.

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what's his w$wsf%?

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Believe I saw it at 39 somewhere.

That is inexcusable. A good player's at 1/2 should prob be around 45. This means there are 6 percent of hands that he's not winning that he could/should be.

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srsly? im at like 39% and 6ptbb over an extremely large sample at 1-2 which pots am i missing [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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really? i guess you must play a lot of multiway pots you give up on?

maybe i've got this all backwards - might be focused too much on this stat.

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Fgators was at 36 or something last I saw. That's pretty pathetic at any limit/site. The fact that he was playing at Stars 200nl which is a pretty taggy game with a ton of tight regs makes it even more pathetic.

But yeah it depends on the site/stakes you play. At Party 200nl mine was 42, currently at 400nl it's 48 or so. However on Stars I've been able to run people over and maintain a W$SF of nearly 50, granted it was a small sample of a few thousand hands.

At Party 200nl I've seen very few people with a W$SF above 43. Most seem to be around 37-40.

Re: What can I do?
 

Stop whining like a little bitch

Post an EV graph over a big sample or STFU