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SmartBugger 07-16-2007 09:20 AM

Re: Poker finally legalized in Quebec
 
Quebec thinks its different than Canada and should be its own country. Politically, they have actually taken strong steps to make themselves more independent of the Canadian government...... basically they have HUGE insecurities about being canadian =p


I go up there a bit because of my family and most people are nice... but you do get the granny-type that tries to teach you french when you order food (I had this happen twice).


Think of Quebec as the some parts of the deep South..... they know they are part of the USA but they just really don't want to be part of it.

Ramstone 07-16-2007 11:05 AM

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You're in North America, learn the language

Flopz 07-16-2007 11:33 AM

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You're in North America, learn the language

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I hate hijacks, but...what language would that be exactly? We have 3 official languages in North America.

StevieG 07-16-2007 11:42 AM

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You're in North America, learn the language

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I hate hijacks, but...what language would that be exactly? We have 3 official languages in North America.

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4 when you count levelese

rafiki 07-16-2007 12:05 PM

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ahha was going to start this forum 2 weeks ago, just didn't know how many 2p2ers were from around here.

I was tempted to email the Lac Leamy casino for some free advice on some of the short comings of some poker rooms. But the email address is loto quebec, so whatever. I know that's going to be a black hole.

I expect the first 4-6 months to probably be terrible just based on what I suspect they will spread for games. Hopefully they ultimately spread a good variety of games. I've never played on the robo-tables, but that could actually save a lot of trouble that a newborn poker room would have. Certainly the misdeals must be reduced, right ? Only thing I wonder is about dinner buttons and such. Anyone know how that works ?

NoRiverRats 07-16-2007 02:43 PM

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Thanks for the update.

If they do a fifty-fifty split I don't think it will stay that way for long.

Because this area has been a black hole for legalized poker for so long, they might work for a while but I really wonder who is going to play on the electronic tables and whether they will be a success in Hull given they don't have a strong track record eslewhere. I think most poker players(myself included) want to play on a table with a dealer and real chips.

Are they more or less daunting for a newbie? I would think that you would need a lot of staff support early on to get beginners to play and be comfortable on a computer table. Therefore, I wonder if its going to be mostly us poker degens playing on the electronic tables either because we are comfortable with the game or because we can't get on a dealer run table.

What do you guys think?

questions 07-16-2007 02:45 PM

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You're in North America, learn the language

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Algonquin?

Ramstone 07-16-2007 06:16 PM

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http://www.kmov.com/sharedcontent/mo...204triumph.jpg

Sheesh

True North 11-15-2007 10:19 PM

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Bump for a further update...

The poker room at Lac Leamy is under construction, and tentatively scheduled to open December 15. They're putting it in the east (newer) end of the casino. 12 tables total, 6 PokerTek and 6 with live dealers.

Seb86 11-15-2007 10:42 PM

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The concern over language doesn't seem legit. There's plenty of English spoken at the Aviation Club. Is Quebec more French than France?

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As a french living in Quebec I can say YES, they translated Lost (the TV show) into "Perdus", KFC into PFK (Poulet Fris du Kentucky).

chadattak 11-15-2007 11:35 PM

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Bump for a further update...

The poker room at Lac Leamy is under construction, and tentatively scheduled to open December 15. They're putting it in the east (newer) end of the casino. 12 tables total, 6 PokerTek and 6 with live dealers.

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I heard about the same thing for casino de Montreal. I read on another forum it should be open by the end of the year. J'ai hâte osti.

NoRiverRats 11-16-2007 11:27 AM

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Thanks for the update, seems to support what I have been hearing elsewhere (jackseven). Do you know if they have the approvals they need from government, apparently they need approval for the Poker tek tables from the gaming commission.

Anyone else with news please post. Information on limits would be also helpful.

The Life Aquatic 11-16-2007 01:31 PM

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If they get real dealers and spread 5/10 and 10/20 NLHE games, I will visit in a flash. I used to live in Montreal and can vouch that Quebecers are some of the worst poker players, as a group, that I've ever come across.

chadattak 11-16-2007 02:31 PM

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A lot of Quebecers in live poker are terrible and I can't imagine what it would be like in a casino.

runstop 11-16-2007 04:17 PM

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Thanks for the update on Lac Leamy.. can't wait to cross the river! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

goofyballer 11-16-2007 05:48 PM

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I'm just saying its highly unlikely they could forbid French at the table. It seems stupid to forbid English, so it seems like both languages is the only option. Is that how it works at the Aviation club?

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I played in Prague and while I don't recall if there were specific rules about languages allowed (was playing with dudes from Sweden, for example, among other places) both English and Czech were spoken freely. Same in Budapest (Hungarian/English both spoken).

The dealers actually declared actions (check/raise/etc) in English, interestingly enough. Cards were A/K/Q/J too.

lmcjaho 11-16-2007 10:11 PM

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Bump for a further update...

The poker room at Lac Leamy is under construction, and tentatively scheduled to open December 15. They're putting it in the east (newer) end of the casino. 12 tables total, 6 PokerTek and 6 with live dealers.

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I heard about the same thing for casino de Montreal. I read on another forum it should be open by the end of the year. J'ai hâte osti.

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The Montreal casino still has no deal in place with the dealer's union for the dealers to deal poker. They are asking their dealers to take a significant hourly pay cut form their regular table games in exchange for promises of better tips - promises that the dealers are understandably not convinced are all that accurate. From what I have been able to discern from conversations with dealers and pit bosses at the table games the dealers will be expected to pool their tips and split between all dealers on the same shift, and the pay cut from an hourly perspective is somewhere in the 30-50% range... I wouldn't take the deal if I were a dealer there, and from the discussions I had with those willing to talk about it, it looks unlikely that the union is going to budge on the issue either...

So - the Montreal Casino poker scene may start with the electronic tables only at some point in the near-distant future until the house can reach a deal with the union... Live "real" poker will then have to wait for a suitable training period to take place for those dealers who do accept the offer, so we're looking at months of delay at best before the room opens...

I have no idea if this applies to the Lac Leamy casino or not...

AskthePro 11-27-2007 11:32 PM

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I have officially spoken with the Casino's Front desk and the official word is it will be on December 18th, not the 15th. The Electronic tables will be available that day. The Dealers are still in a fight with the union because they are having problems with money but are hoping they can come to a conclusion before december 18th. The dealers want more money than the union is offering them.

NoRiverRats 11-28-2007 12:25 PM

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Thanks for the update.

A couple questions. The dealers are fighting with the union, not the employer? Can you elaborate.

Also, if the dealers can reach an agreement, will they be ready to open live tables on the 18? In other words, does the Casino have the tables and are the dealers trained and ready to go on the 18th?

Thanks.

mephisto 11-29-2007 02:44 AM

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This is great news. I'm just wondering why there hasn't been any big promos about it. No real press release, the lac leamy site doesn't even state anything new. Weird? I think it is.

Can't wait to start playing there on a regular basis.

zunni74 11-29-2007 12:38 PM

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As someone planning on making his first trip to Montreal within the next 3 months I was really excited to hear this news.

I would hate to have to play on electronic tables so hopefully the $$$ issue between union and casino are worked out by then.

I sent an email (before I found this thread, teach me to not check 2+2 first) to the casino and am waiting to find out what they are planning on spreading and how many tables etc they are anticipating.

Also if it is french only, I expect to see a lot of Umberto Brenes thumbs up'ing and arm gestures (just without sharks), any bilingual folks feeling up to training us anglos how to navigate a poker table en francais?

True North 11-29-2007 12:49 PM

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I have officially spoken with the Casino's Front desk and the official word is it will be on December 18th, not the 15th. The Electronic tables will be available that day. The Dealers are still in a fight with the union because they are having problems with money but are hoping they can come to a conclusion before december 18th. The dealers want more money than the union is offering them.

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Is this for Montreal, or Lac Leamy (or both)?

magoo 11-29-2007 09:26 PM

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Good for local enthusiasts. But, those will be the least profitable poker games on planet earth. Probably will be mostly geared toward tournaments. Nobody in her correct mind, should go to Canada for ring game action.

True North 11-30-2007 12:40 PM

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Good for local enthusiasts. But, those will be the least profitable poker games on planet earth. Probably will be mostly geared toward tournaments. Nobody in her correct mind, should go to Canada for ring game action.

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Typical Quebec poker players are among the worst players anywhere, so I'm not too worried. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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